HUMMAN wrote:Well considering people send mams (5 mams!) in age4 it is a very legit question. GG WP no re.
You should never send mams in age 4 if you can still send spahis lol. They auto upgrade in age 4.
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
yeah sometimes for a cheese I even FI, go age 4 with 3 spahis and time my age with 5 spahis to pop 8 guard spahis when I up (need to hope opponent will pressure the popping point)
Hazza54321 wrote:Mams compliment ottos units way better so id go with mams regardless
Nah, spahi are defo better in some cases. Especially now its 4 mams only. Spahi are better to send first right after aging to III, without infantry support. Spahi are better in IV. Spahi are better vs mass LI like garja said, but also vs cav. So vs russia or aztecs, i think spahi will usually get more done, at least when theyre age2.
But when you need to kill the others 2 falc shipment or there are dragoons on the field, then you mams are better.
vs your typical skirm goon u want mams as they can snare forever so ur vet jans can just get on top of him and your mum
Hazza54321 wrote:Mams compliment ottos units way better so id go with mams regardless
Nah, spahi are defo better in some cases. Especially now its 4 mams only. Spahi are better to send first right after aging to III, without infantry support. Spahi are better in IV. Spahi are better vs mass LI like garja said, but also vs cav. So vs russia or aztecs, i think spahi will usually get more done, at least when theyre age2.
But when you need to kill the others 2 falc shipment or there are dragoons on the field, then you mams are better.
vs your typical skirm goon u want mams as they can snare forever so ur vet jans can just get on top of him and your mum
Hazza54321 wrote:Mams compliment ottos units way better so id go with mams regardless
Nah, spahi are defo better in some cases. Especially now its 4 mams only. Spahi are better to send first right after aging to III, without infantry support. Spahi are better in IV. Spahi are better vs mass LI like garja said, but also vs cav. So vs russia or aztecs, i think spahi will usually get more done, at least when theyre age2.
But when you need to kill the others 2 falc shipment or there are dragoons on the field, then you mams are better.
vs your typical skirm goon u want mams as they can snare forever so ur vet jans can just get on top of him and your mum
duckzilla wrote:Have to admit it makes me mad to see that this thread is about two units whose names both are written horribly wrong. Guess "Mamaluke" is still somehwat ok, but "Sphai" is a tough one...
ops sorry I can't change it atm
its ok bro, no one really bats an eye on it besides duckzilla. i didn't even notice it untill his post.
What about adding a further technology to the Ottoman church card? It could be an age V tech costing 2k wood/2k coin which allows Ottomans to build Spahis in stable.
The change would boost the Ottoman church card (not very good currently?!), give Ottoman a bit more variety for treaty/late-game and would also prevent Spahis from becoming too overpowered through shadow teching.
Whatever is written above: this is no financial advice.
I mean that is irrelevant for 1v1 and potentially stupid in Teamgames and Treaty considering they cost 280 food only, have better stats than cuirs, shadowtech and at least have cavcombat and riding school.
Also would be more of a thing for the treaty patch, not regular ep.
scarm wrote:I mean that is irrelevant for 1v1 and potentially stupid in Teamgames and Treaty considering they cost 280 food only, have better stats than cuirs, shadowtech and at least have cavcombat and riding school.
Changing the cost of Spahis should not be too difficult, shadowtech was already addressed, cuirs have more upgrade cards (cheaper/faster produced/combat) and France is an entirely different civ design anyway (better eco, (far) more pop space). Spahis would fit well to Ottoman pop heaviness (abus guns) leading to trade-off situations.
Whatever is written above: this is no financial advice.
They are just designed to be a homecity exclusive unit. Thats why they have their stats in the first place. Also that change is just not gonna happen, because its again pretty irrelevant for supremacy.