Kaiser vs Somppu indirect grudge match

[deleted_user0]

Would you like to go up to 100 dollars if Rapha plays?

[[Armag] diarouga]

Would you like to go up to 100 dollars if Rapha plays?

Pride is more important, you don't need to bet a lot of money...

[deleted_user0]

Would you like to go up to 100 dollars if Rapha plays?

Pride is more important, you don't need to bet a lot of money...

The best non-biased estimation I could make for Rapha-Kaiser, bo9 without Kaiser Germany is atleast 75-25% for rapha. So of course I want to do as high bet as possible.

[[Armag] diarouga]

You think you'll beat ger with 5 different civs? Hmm

Assuming no wood start (with wood start it's +10 for ger)

Brit 50-50
Iro 50-50 and rapha doesn't know the civ very well so he can definitely win this
France 45-55
Port 45-55 on good ger map
And the last one is on no TP so kaiser can win this

To be honest, Germany is balanced on non wood start, but getting +10 every time you get a wood start is the big balance issue.

[Snuden]

Unfortunately I am the only member of my clan, otherwise I would have dropped a note on the clan message board.

[Riotcoke]

Unfortunately I am the only member of my clan, otherwise I would have dropped a note on the clan message board.

Can i be a member, i want to worship the 666 too

[Kaiserklein]

Would you like to go up to 100 dollars if Rapha plays?

Let's do 50 if you want. I'm not playing this for the money but to show you guys overrate germany. Not sure why you want to bet that much.

[deleted_user0]

Would you like to go up to 100 dollars if Rapha plays?

Let's do 50 if you want. I'm not playing this for the money but to show you guys overrate germany. Not sure why you want to bet that much.

Because I'm a rational decision-maker low on cash.

[Kaiserklein]

Betting $100 if you're low on cash isn't rational, it's stupid.

[FKFace]

Hey, I'll throw in $10.

[Kawapasaka]

I will gib money if something concrete is actually sorted out

[Snuden]

Unfortunately I am the only member of my clan, otherwise I would have dropped a note on the clan message board.

Can i be a member, i want to worship the 666 too

Yes.

[deleted_user0]

Betting $100 if you're low on cash isn't rational, it's stupid.

Assuming that I estimate Rapha's chance +75%, which is (kind of) educated guess, and backed by 3 betting wins, and I'm not crazily risk-averse person, every economist of the world disagrees.

When infact I'm a risk-seeking personality based on the assumption that betting and the excitement brings me utility itself.
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[Kaiserklein]

Betting $100 if you're low on cash isn't rational, it's stupid.

Assuming that I estimate Rapha's chance +75%, which is (kind of) educated guess, and backed by 3 betting wins, and I'm not crazily risk-averse person, every economist of the world disagrees.

When infact I'm a risk-seeking personality based on the assumption that betting and the excitement brings me utility itself.
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Except I'm sure raphael himself wouldn't say he has 75% chances of winning. You base that on your own biased belief than germany is unbeatable. Anyway I'm not up for betting so much on one match, I'd do $50 if you really want to, even though it's useless.

[SoldieR]

You think you'll beat ger with 5 different civs? Hmm

Assuming no wood start (with wood start it's +10 for ger)

Brit 50-50
Iro 50-50 and rapha doesn't know the civ very well so he can definitely win this
France 45-55
Port 45-60 on good ger map
And the last one is on no TP so kaiser can win this

To be honest, Germany is balanced on non wood start, but getting +10 every time you get a wood start is the big balance issue.

I suppose when you add in ATP and no tp maps ger is balanced, but on normal maps I dont think I'd lose more than 3 games in this scenario.

[deleted_user0]

Why do you assume that Rapha could estimate his chances better than me?
Judging your own chances is probably way harder than from a third perspective.

[Riotcoke]

Unfortunately I am the only member of my clan, otherwise I would have dropped a note on the clan message board.

Can i be a member, i want to worship the 666 too

Yes.

Send us over an invite when you can then :)

[amiggo1999]

There is just one thing that has to be solved, what incentive does the player have to perform at his best, when he will receive the money anyways? Maybe it should be: if he he loses ESOC get's the money, if he wins he gets the money.

[I_HaRRiiSoN_I]

at this point id just rather see a kaiser vs sompu BO9 series. If kaiser wins hes get pride, if sompu wins he gets pride aswell as any community donations. Surely too good of an opportunity to turn down?

[amiggo1999]

@I_HaRRiiSoN_I they already agreed on doing it. They just need a champion

[I_HaRRiiSoN_I]

yh but after 3 pages of trying to find a 3rd player to just play germans they've gotten no where and then its hard to tell whether skill level won the games or the match up won the games.

[amiggo1999]

@I_HaRRiiSoN_I you have no clue about the context do you? It's not about grudge match between Somppu and Kaiser. It's about Kaiser wanting to prove that Germany is not as OP as people (e.g. somppu) claim it is.

[[Armag] diarouga]

You think you'll beat ger with 5 different civs? Hmm

Assuming no wood start (with wood start it's +10 for ger)

Brit 50-50
Iro 50-50 and rapha doesn't know the civ very well so he can definitely win this
France 45-55
Port 45-60 on good ger map
And the last one is on no TP so kaiser can win this

To be honest, Germany is balanced on non wood start, but getting +10 every time you get a wood start is the big balance issue.

I suppose when you add in ATP and no tp maps ger is balanced, but on normal maps I dont think I'd lose more than 3 games in this scenario.

No offense, but I'm pretty sure you would lose the series to the top 5. Germany is op but it's not a free win either.

[Riotcoke]

@I_HaRRiiSoN_I you have no clue about the context do you? It's not about grudge match between Somppu and Kaiser. It's about Kaiser wanting to prove that Germany is not as OP as people (e.g. somppu) claim it is.

The context is that Somppu constantly whines about Germany being op, which maybe justified, and kaiser is annoyed with it. Also Kaiser banned the somali from his twitch chat.

[deleted_user]

Lol. If you can't find a German main of equal skill to Kaiser, the next logical step is to find two lower ranked players of equal skill. I nominate myself and @Vinyanyérë