Peachrocks wrote:zoom wrote:The Comanche Whore Archer makes the Keshik look Garja.
I also think Keshiks aren't as bad as people say, its just the fact they train with pikes or mortars. They cost only food and are 1 pop so if you could train them alone, they 'might' be decent. Alas you can't, so moot point. I was going to compare them to the Keshiks and still could, you know what, I just might, curiosity overpowers me. Brb .
Keshiks are bad because they are comparable to war wagons just worse: they share traits which benefit both a hit&run (fragility, low hp / ranged resistance) and a stand-your-ground gameplay (set up animation, rof 1.5). In my opinion, they are without doubt the worst designed unit in the game and a total failure already on paper.
The stats you posted allow the following comparison between keshik/CHA:
Cost: 136 - 243 (45% cheaper)
HP: 110 - 200 (45% less hp)
Res: 30rr - 10mr
Speed: 7.25 - 7.25
Dmg: 8 - 13 (20% less dmg)
Siege: 5 - 15 (66% less siege)
Keshik 110hp without any melee resistance + set up animation means that the one unit class they should counter (cav) is stronger than them.