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Riotcoke wrote:Only 80m people speak German though, it's not the lingua franca so nobody cares

It's alright, your language is cool too :hehe:
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Now that we’re on it... bestEIros => in this word EI sound exactly like the letter A in english. It should read like bestayros. I die inside everytime people say bestieros :p
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It's "Cal-en" as in "calendar - dar." Or, "Alan" + "K."

Not collon. I'm not a large intestine or a punctuation mark.
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Hussar= huzz-ah

https://www.macmillandictionary.com/pro ... ish/hussar

Generally with military terms it is best to gamble on the French pronunciation as British hierarchical terms tended to follow on from the use of French in court and legal matters dating from Norman times
and actually persisting for several hundred years after the Lancastrian supplantation of the House of Plantagenet. The British then exported these terms to much of the rest of the world hence most of the top military terms are of french or latin-via-french derivation-

Field Marshal
The rank evolved from the title of marescalci (masters of the horse) of the early Frankish kings. The importance of cavalry in medieval warfare led to the marshalship being associated with a command position.

The modern military title of field marshal was introduced into the British army in 1736 by King George II, who imported it from Germany. In Britain the rank came to be bestowed only upon a few senior army officers, notably the chief of Britain's Imperial General Staff.

General
The King would be the commander but he might appoint a Captain General to command in his name - the first being George Monck appointed by Charles II in 1660. Later, when the title of Colonel became popular some Kings called their commanders Colonel General. The British Army stopped using the Captain part of the title by the Eighteenth Century leaving just General as the top commander. Lat. generalis "something pertaining to a whole unit of anything rather than just to a part". Before the Sixteenth Century armies were usually formed only when needed for a war or campaign.

Lieutenant General
The king or his Captain General would often be away from the army since they had interests elsewhere so the job of actually running the army fell to the Captain General's assistant - his lieutenant - the Lieutenant General. This was not a permanent rank until the Seventeenth Century, before which one of the Colonels might be appointed Lieutenant General for a particular campaign or war but he would still command his own regiment.

Major General
The army's chief administrative officer was the Sergeant Major General. He would be an experienced soldier, possibly a commoner, who served as chief of staff. For much of his administrative work he dealt with the regimental Sergeant Majors, thus his title meant "overall" or "chief" Sergeant Major. His duties included such things as supply, organization, and forming the army for battle or march.

As the General ranks became fixed during the Seventeenth Century the Sergeant portion fell away leaving the title as Major General. This happened in England in 1655 when its Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell organized the country into eleven military districts each commanded by a Major General.

Brigadier
Commander of a Brigade, in some armies later known as a Brigadier General. The Lieutenant General and Sergeant Major General dealt directly with the Colonels who lead the regiments making up the army. When there got to be too many regiments for the two generals to handle effectively they organized Brigades, usually composed of three or more Regiments. During the nineteenth century and before the "rank" of Brigadier was actually established, a local or temporary appointment granted (typically) to a full Colonel when commanding a Brigade.

The Brigadier General was the lowest-ranking general officer but was abolished when the Brigade was abolished after World War I, being replaced by Colonels Commandant.. The rank of Brigadier appeared in 1928

Colonel
The Spanish Army was organised into twenty units called colunelas or columns. These comprised 1000 to 1250 men further organized into companies. The commander was the cabo de colunela, head of the column, or Colonel. Since the colunelas were royal or "crown" units they were also called coronelias and their commanders coronels.

The French developed Regiments from the colunela, keeping the title of Colonel and pronounced it the way it looks. The British copied the French. They also borrowed the Colonel from the French but adopted the Spanish pronunciation of coronel.

Lieutenant Colonel
The Colonel's assistants - their Lieutenants - took over at such times and any other times the Colonels were gone. The Colonel's lieutenants, of course, soon became the Lieutenant Colonels.

Major
A Major was originally the Sergeant Major third in command to a Colonel in a traditional Regiment. Later, like a Lieutenant Colonel, a Major might command his own Battalion. Lat. maior is simply Latin for "greater".

Captain
Originally Captain-Lieutenant, becoming Captain in 1772. Lat. capitaneus "chieftain", from Lat. caput "head". Chieftain or head of a unit. As armies evolved his post came to be at the head of a company, which by the Sixteenth Century was usually 100 to 200 men. That seemed to be the number one man could manage in battle.

Lieutenant
French lieu (place) tenant (holder). The Lieutenant normally commands a small tactical unit such as a platoon. A Lieutenant often takes the place of a superior officer when that officer is absent.

Second Lieutenant
The lowest rank of commissioned officer. Note that a Subaltern is a term applied to any officer below the rank of captain, especially a second lieutenant. Derivation from Latin related to the word for alternate.

Until 1871 the lowest commissioned rank was the Ensign in the Infantry and Cornet in the Cavalry - both names derived from French words signifying standard bearers. The Fusilier regiments, having no company colours, had First and Second Lieutenants anyway. The Fusiliers abolished the rank of Second Lieutenant in 1834. Between 1871-1877 the lowest was the Sub Lieutenant, after which today's Second Lieutenant rank was established.

Warrant Officer


Introduced into the British Army in 1879, the military grade of Warrant Officer dates back to the early years of the Royal Navy. These experienced soldiers, often have specialist appointments. They hold a Royal Warrant from Her Majesty The Queen. There are currently two classes of Warrant Officer, First Class and Second Class.



Staff Sergeant A rank senior to sergeant.
Sergeant
Lat. serviens servant to a knight in medieval times. The English borrowed the word sergeant from the French in about the Thirteenth Century. Meaning "non-commissioned military officer" first recorded 1548. Originally a much more important rank than presently.

Corporal
Originally referred to a reliable veteran called the capo de'squadra or head of the square.

The title changed to caporale by the Sixteenth Century and meant the leader of a small body of soldiers. The French picked up the term in about the Sixteenth Century and pronounced it in various ways, one of them being corporal, which indicates a mixing with the Latin word corpus or French corps (body).

The British adopted corporal in the Seventeenth or Eighteenth Century and it has been a part of the army ever since. The British gave the Corporal his two stripes when they started using chevrons in 1803.

Lance Corporal
Appointment and not a rank. Junior to a Corporal. From lancepesade "officer of lowest rank, from obsolete French lancepessade, from Old Italian lancia spezzata, superior soldier, literally "broken lance". Originally referred to as a "chosen man" who would take control of the section if the Corporal was to be killed or wounded
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deleted_user wrote:It's "Cal-en" as in "calendar - dar." Or, "Alan" + "K."

Not collon. I'm not a large intestine or a punctuation mark.
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Lieutenant is pronounced as lef(t) - tennant(best doctor)
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ShinkuroYukinari wrote:Lieutenant is pronounced as lef(t) - tennant(best doctor)
This is another one that has a different American pronunciation, "Loo-tennant". See Wikipedia's pronunciation:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieutenant

Interestingly, Wikipedia suggests that the existence of two alternative be pronunciations could precede Middle English.
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It's also funny how all non-germans pronounce "Landsknecht" or "Doppelsöldner" :P
They keep saying Lands-checks or Landsshacks which sounds so obnoxious :lol:
The real plural for the word Ulan is Ulanen. In english, it is just called Uhlan and Uhlans though, adding an "h" and using the -s plural form.
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"Leftennant" was legit the thing that confused 15-year old me learning english back then the most. English pronunciation is so easy and nice and intuitive most of the time, and then they slap you in the face with the most nonsensical thing ever.

Oh yeah also Sioux. German movies and shit sometimes pronounce that word as "See-ox" (even AoE3 german loc does). When my english teacher told me its pronounced like "Zoo", i did not believe her at first lol.
aaryngend wrote:The real plural for the word Ulan is Ulanen. In english, it is just called Uhlan and Uhlans though, adding an "h" and using the -s plural form.
If you wanna be that guy, Ulani is actually a polish word, duh. Or turkish. Whichever theory you prefer.
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scarm wrote:
aaryngend wrote:The real plural for the word Ulan is Ulanen. In english, it is just called Uhlan and Uhlans though, adding an "h" and using the -s plural form.
If you wanna be that guy, Ulani is actually a polish word, duh. Or turkish. Whichever theory you prefer.
Ye, but talking about the german version of the word here since the unit belongs to the german civlization. Many of the german arsenal(units, techs, etc.) in aoe3 stems from Prussia. The polish word has the famous "ł" in it: ułani.
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deleted_user wrote:It's "Cal-en" as in "calendar - dar." Or, "Alan" + "K."

Not collon. I'm not a large intestine or a punctuation mark.
So what you’re saying is Sir Collon pretty good?
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What I find the most hilarious is actually all the Germans in this thread using an EU flag instead of a German one.
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Astaroth wrote:What I find the most hilarious is actually all the Germans in this thread using an EU flag instead of a German one.
I'm changing my flag on eso-c on a weekly to bi-weekly basis

But many Germans identify as European first, including myself. In terms of nationalism/patriotism Germany ranks among the lowest worldwide, continental and regional identity plays a much bigger role in Germany.
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jesus3 wrote:
But many Germans identify as European first, including myself.
Interesting, I don't think I know anyone IRL who does that.
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Lukas_L99 wrote:
jesus3 wrote:
But many Germans identify as European first, including myself.
Interesting, I don't think I know anyone IRL who does that.
Most German people I meet and get to talk about that matter with identify as European or their region/federal state first before German actually. And they're not just political science students like me which could bias that sample, but from a wider range of professions.

To me it's interesting that you don't know anyone like that.
It somewhat supports my view of Germany as a whole and this might be a bold claim, but as I see it there is no "one" German identity. Every region has its own history, influence, every city its own demographics, mash of nationalities, cultures and so on. Add your particular social circle to the equation and I'm not surprised that you have a different experience.

If I had to rank, I'd say I'm European first, Swabian second, German third (if you exclude others like 'human being')

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musketeer925 wrote:
ShinkuroYukinari wrote:Lieutenant is pronounced as lef(t) - tennant(best doctor)
This is another one that has a different American pronunciation, "Loo-tennant".
You see Musk, there is the problem. It's American, not the proper Queen's English :P
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As someone who lives in upstate NY, people pronounce Iroquois like i-ruh-KOI as it's been anglicized. The first time I heard interjection say i-ro-KWA it sounded a noticeably "off" to me but I wouldn't say it sounded "wrong" either. If you go full throated French 'r' or 'qu' on someone you would probably get looked at funny around here. I've never heard a local Oneida say it the more french way but then again probably you won't here them say Iroquois since they call themselves the Haudenosaunee.

One word I've heard @Interjection and @Kaiserklein say totally incorrectly while casting is Cheyenne. It's pronounced shy-ANN. Not CHAY-eny. I'm little surprised how badly this gets said in streams since there is nothing tricky about the pronunciation, maybe it's just the spelling is a misleading. It's also the capital of Wyoming but I imagine most non-Americans don't hear anything about Wyoming unless they watch a western movie that is set there.

I'm probably being a little picky about these two words but they sound really off to me knowing how they are pronounced:
Comanche - it's pronounced kuh-MAN-chee. Not KO-man-chay or KO-man-chee. On the first syllable, casters seem to overstress it and say it slightly wrong to me.
Adirondacks - it's pronounced ad-uh-RON-dacks. Interjection says something more like Ah-DUR-on-DACKS which sounds really strange to someone who has lived near there forever.
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Thank you! This will be helpful for those native village videos :lol:
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ITT: people have accents as a result of being from different geographies around the world.
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Zutazuta wrote:ITT: people have accents as a result of being from different geographies around the world.
Why can't you just pronounce Landsknecht like a normal German person? What is wrong with you?

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Mr_Bramboy wrote:
Zutazuta wrote:ITT: people have accents as a result of being from different geographies around the world.
Why can't you just pronounce Landsknecht like a normal German person? What is wrong with you?
/s
It's even wrong in a youtubevideo and dictionary :lol:

It should sound like this https://forvo.com/word/landsknecht/
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Astaroth wrote:What I find the most hilarious is actually all the Germans in this thread using an EU flag instead of a German one.
The EU flag just looks supercool.
supahons wrote:It's even wrong in a youtubevideo and dictionary :lol:

It should sound like this https://forvo.com/word/landsknecht/
This is it! The "Pronunciation by Madnesz" is a perfect example of how to pronounce Landsknecht :flowers:
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Astaroth wrote:What I find the most hilarious is actually all the Germans in this thread using an EU flag instead of a German one.
Well EU is mostly germany and its colonies so I see how this would make sense

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