Farm/plantation for allied use and its gather rate

[bittersalt123]

How does the gather rate work when you or an ally uses a mill/farm that you created for them? Sometimes I like to do that for my ally when I'm Iroq with a travois it seems OP but i'm concerned that upgrades for my ally won't apply when they're gathering on them.

[scarm]

Your Upgrades are tied to your vills not your farms afaik. So yes they will only gather at base rate, until they build a mill of their own and get their techs.

[bittersalt123]

Your Upgrades are tied to your vills not your farms afaik. So yes they will only gather at base rate, until they build a mill of their own and get their techs.

oh damn that sucks but I guess it's an option lol

[scarm]

I mean it is still costeffective to do it, they just need one building of their own.

[bittersalt123]

I mean it is still costeffective to do it, they just need one building of their own.

OH okay I see what you mean. So if my m8 get their own upgrades from their mill/plantation then those upgrades apply when using my mill/plantations?

[scarm]

They should. As i said as far as i know the upgrades are tied to the vills, not the bulding, and usually affect all 3 Building types.

[qwixs]

Is that viable for treaty? Cause vills dont move on the field i guess. So you can gather with 10 vills from 1 field instead of 7 vills/mill.

[scarm]

Afaik (it has been a while snce i played treaty and i never was that good, so grain of salt is advised) it is technically optimal to build rice paddies for your teammates in treaty, don't know about fields, but i guess the same applies.

[Papist]

Is that viable for treaty? Cause vills dont move on the field i guess. So you can gather with 10 vills from 1 field instead of 7 vills/mill.

Yeah, I remember this being quite common back when I played nr 55 Orinoco games. I dont know how much of a difference this makes over the course of a game though. If I had to guess, it's a couple thousand resources at most.

[bittersalt123]

Is that viable for treaty? Cause vills dont move on the field i guess. So you can gather with 10 vills from 1 field instead of 7 vills/mill.

Yeah, I remember this being quite common back when I played nr 55 Orinoco games. I dont know how much of a difference this makes over the course of a game though. If I had to guess, it's a couple thousand resources at most.

If you're Iroq or your teammates is Iroq and the travois dance is performed.

[Imperial Noob]

What's up with this "gatherer limit reached" pop-up sound when using AI-built plantations or mills? Does it happen in multiplayer as well?

[bittersalt123]

What's up with this "gatherer limit reached" pop-up sound when using AI-built plantations or mills? Does it happen in multiplayer as well?

There is no gather limit reached with mill and plantations. There's unlimited resources on mills and plantation... I've never seen that popup you're referring to lol

[scarm]

He is talking about the small yellow writing on the left + the "blocked" sound that usually comes up when you try to assign more than 10 vills to a building. This often bugs out when trying to assign vills to foreign mills and plantations.

edit: also yes i can confirm it happens in multiplayer as well. Reference: Me playing lots of cannibal and ottoman escape