POLL: Should you be able to kill enemy livestock?

Should you be able to kill enemy livestock?

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No
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POLL: Should you be able to kill enemy livestock?

Post by Papist »

I don't mean deleting them, obviously. Should you be able to kill your opponent's cows, sheep, etc.? Currently, livestock provide a pretty huge eco bonus that can't be lost unless you do something dumb like put them next to a forward building that's outside the range of your TC. Furthermore, civs with two scouts are pretty much guaranteed to dominate on livestock maps and the spawning of livestock is often quite unfair.

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You ever punched an enemy cow with your vills?
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dansil92 wrote:You ever punched an enemy cow with your vills?
I was thinking of military units. I know villies can kill them.
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No, I don't think Russia needs a buff.
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I get the impression that people would just run their explorer into the enemy's base and kill their livestock. At best, you could make it so you can convert livestock even if it's next to a building, so long as there are no nearby units, and they're not "safe" in a livestock pen. I could see that incentivizing livestock pens. Something else I don't like is the inconsistency between being able to kill livestock and not being able to kill hunts.
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No. The only way to make it not abuseable is to add ridiculous negative multipliers vs them, in which case aiz would train them to tank in fights.
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Amsel_ wrote:I get the impression that people would just run their explorer into the enemy's base and kill their livestock. At best, you could make it so you can convert livestock even if it's next to a building, so long as there are no nearby units, and they're not "safe" in a livestock pen. I could see that incentivizing livestock pens. Something else I don't like is the inconsistency between being able to kill livestock and not being able to kill hunts.
I like this idea a lot. The goal in any case would to make livestock less imbalanced. They currently disproportionately benefit a handful of civs, either because they have two scouts, or free fattening (China), or are an infinite source of xp (India). All of those things would be significantly less troublesome if they could be contested in your base.

Edit: Using cows to body-block is stupid as well.
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Fun idea but in reality it would be a bad idea.
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Let's please stop
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Mfw cows are made killable before livestock in general is made economically viable

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This is why papist oos.
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Yea please stop with the nonsense, the current EP leadership can't make the difference between a reasonable change and a non sense change, don't bait it.

We already added an exp trickle to native TPs ROFL
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[quote="[Armag] We already added an exp trickle to native TPs ROFL[/quote]

wat lol

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ChewSick wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Yea please stop with the nonsense, the current EP leadership can't make the difference between a reasonable change and a non sense change, don't bait it.

We already added an exp trickle to native TPs ROFL
wat lol

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In the newest iteration of EP7 Beta, Native Tps will give a trickle of 0,60xp/s per unique native alliance (i.e. 2 inca TPs will still only trickle 0,6, while one inca and one lakota tp will trickle 1,2)
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No, same as you can't kill the enemies' Trade Cart in aoe2.
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scarm wrote:In the newest iteration of EP7 Beta, Native Tps will give a trickle of 0,60xp/s per unique native alliance (i.e. 2 inca TPs will still only trickle 0,6, while one inca and one lakota tp will trickle 1,2)
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What do you mean?
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Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including wilfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts. You'd be looking at a lifetime in The Hague.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including wilfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts. You'd be looking at a lifetime in The Hague.
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lordraphael wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including wilfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts. You'd be looking at a lifetime in The Hague.
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Kaiserklein wrote:Let's please stop
Wow man just chill lol
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:
lordraphael wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including wilfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts. You'd be looking at a lifetime in The Hague.
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Edit: Using cows to body-block is stupid as well.
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