What will the definitive edition be?

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A direct recreation of the original game, with balance, UI, and bugs in-tact, just with better graphics
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21%
The same but the bugs are fixed (RIP Alt+d)
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6%
The same but the Homecity annoyance is changed so you don't have to use a workaround to play the game enjoyable
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6%
Balance is changed in a way that makes ESOC happy
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4%
Balance is changed in a way that makes ESOC pissed (obviously more likely)
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17%
Entire new civs are added, but the balance with other civs isn't changed, making people mad
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4%
Entire new civs are added, and the balance with other civs is changed, making people mad
6
12%
Pay to win
4
8%
It's everything everybody wants all at once but the invite spammer is still able to make it unplayable
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23%
 
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Forgive me if such an idea has already been discussed like this, I don't have time to follow the General section as obesessively as I do off-topic. I'm curious as to what people are expecting from the so-called "definitive" edition
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Balance is changed in a way that makes ESOC happy
this is most certainly not possible

see: the release thread for every EP iteration
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musketeer925 wrote:
Balance is changed in a way that makes ESOC happy
this is most certainly not possible

see: the release thread for every EP iteration
Since you're dev team you should give me an option to open up betting and give different odds to each poll option
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
musketeer925 wrote:
Balance is changed in a way that makes ESOC happy
this is most certainly not possible

see: the release thread for every EP iteration
Since you're dev team you should give me an option to open up betting and give different odds to each poll option
is that not basically a poll trying to predict the results of a poll?
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fightinfrenchman wrote:
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Since you're dev team you should give me an option to open up betting and give different odds to each poll option
is that not basically a poll trying to predict the results of a poll?
I'll pay people who get the correct result
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You should allow voting on more than one option.
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n0el wrote:You should allow voting on more than one option.
That would require me to know how to change a poll that's already posted
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musketeer925 wrote:
fightinfrenchman wrote:
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Since you're dev team you should give me an option to open up betting and give different odds to each poll option
is that not basically a poll trying to predict the results of a poll?
I wonder if Esoc is sha
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bobabu wrote:
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is that not basically a poll trying to predict the results of a poll?
I wonder if Esoc is sharing their intellectual property with Microsoft. Seeing the new maps in de would certainly be a greatd addition.
That's not happening, get your head of your ass, man
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bobabu wrote:
musketeer925 wrote:
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is that not basically a poll trying to predict the results of a poll?
I wonder if Esoc is sharing their intellectual property with Microsoft. Seeing the new maps in de would certainly be a greatd addition.
ESOC doesn't have any intellectual property, bar the logo and art. And even the logo itself is borderline illegal. All maps/scenarios created are owned by Microsoft.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:
bobabu wrote:
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I wonder if Esoc is sharing their intellectual property with Microsoft. Seeing the new maps in de would certainly be a greatd addition.
ESOC doesn't have any intellectual property, bar the logo and art. And even the logo itself is borderline illegal. All maps/scenarios created are owned by Microsoft.
Shut the fuck up
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I think it’s more likely that whoever the studio designing the game is makes their own maps rather than adopts the EP maps.
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n0el wrote:I think it’s more likely that whoever the studio designing the game is makes their own maps rather than adopts the EP maps.
I hope they exclusively use shitty scenario maps
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:And even the logo itself is borderline illegal.
Actually, the "III" logo is part of the "Fan site kit", previously available here, intentionally provided for fan sites to use on their site: http://agecommunity.com/all_downloads.aspx
Ambitious webmasters eager to advance to the "next Age" now have a generous stockpile of resources to help them get there. Ensemble Studios today released a new Fan Site Kit for Age of Empires III, the upcoming landmark real-time strategy game from Ensemble and Microsoft Game Studios. The new kit provides webmasters with a treasure trove of screenshots, high-resolution artwork, logos, parts of the user interface and even music from the upcoming game.
I have a copy of the kit, but it's too big to upload here. It doesn't include any kind of license, though, which is a little strange.
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What I care more about is not new civs/map and gameplay changes , but bringing many new players to the game(which I doubt will happend).
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giannisKING wrote:What I care more about is not new civs/map and gameplay changes , but bringing many new players to the game(which I doubt will happend).
The biggest barrier at its launch (and hence) has been the "play to win" card unlocking/homecity leveling mechanic.

If this is addressed I expect new players to treat themselves to a delighting RTS unlike any on the market.
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musketeer925 wrote:
Balance is changed in a way that makes ESOC happy
this is most certainly not possible

see: the release thread for every EP iteration
People were satisfied with most EP versions. The EP7 is a bit of an exception.
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Idk I think EP 7 is better than EP 6 tbh, and that's a statement that is (((seemingly))) separate me meeting the balancer in person. Certain exceptions exist but idk how to deal with them without way more time and resources (sioux). You hated EP6, man. But now it's OK because there's a more exciting patch out to hate more. You're a sheep?

I think all EPs > RE. So if the devs choose anything from ESOC to act as base balance I'll be content. And I have a hunch they'll do just that.
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deleted_user wrote:
giannisKING wrote:What I care more about is not new civs/map and gameplay changes , but bringing many new players to the game(which I doubt will happend).
The biggest barrier at its launch (and hence) has been the "play to win" card unlocking/homecity leveling mechanic.

If this is addressed I expect new players to treat themselves to a delighting RTS unlike any on the market.
Not jast that, developers and designer team should reconsidered all reasons that made TAD not that popular and act accordingly, whatever the result may be.
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giannisKING wrote:What I care more about is not new civs/map and gameplay changes , but bringing many new players to the game(which I doubt will happend).
As a matter of fact there has been a recent surge - often tallying around 2k users - on the ESO servers. Sadly this spike in activity is not reflected on the (only relevant) community webpage. I have lamented this before and I simply can't comprehend why ESOC won't adopt a broadchurch attitude to the game in regards to the fan- vs RE patch.
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bepsi wrote:
giannisKING wrote:What I care more about is not new civs/map and gameplay changes , but bringing many new players to the game(which I doubt will happend).
As a matter of fact there has been a recent surge - often tallying around 2k users - on the ESO servers. Sadly this spike in activity is not reflected on the (only relevant) community webpage. I have lamented this before and I simply can't comprehend why ESOC won't adopt a broadchurch attitude to the game in regards to the fan- vs RE patch.
I don't think it's any sort of deep seated resentment, moreso the ppl aren't familiar with these numbers, and already have a lot on their plate as volunteer members of a website about to host a relatively very large tournament already behind schedule. Just playing devil's advocate...

Imagine every man-hour gone into this website over 5 years (reminder: it self-resurrected the community). Imagine every single minute of it is self-volunteered.

Soon a set of multi-paragraph bios for the ~20 pro players will be released for free of charge four years after this website was created and also without any monitory payoff to contributors. Izz just izz. I say leave it to Microsoft to increase player numbers.

The EP patch literally makes little changes to balance the whole.
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deleted_user wrote:Idk I think EP 7 is better than EP 6 tbh, and that's a statement that is (((seemingly))) separate me meeting the balancer in person. Certain exceptions exist but idk how to deal with them without way more time and resources (sioux). You hated EP6, man. But now it's OK because there's a more exciting patch out to hate more. You're a sheep?

I think all EPs > RE. So if the devs choose anything from ESOC to act as base balance I'll be content. And I have a hunch they'll do just that.
I didn't hate EP6 at all, that's a fake news lol.

I hated the first version of EP6 which was even worse than EP7, but eventually it changed into a normal patch I hardly criticized.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
deleted_user wrote:Idk I think EP 7 is better than EP 6 tbh, and that's a statement that is (((seemingly))) separate me meeting the balancer in person. Certain exceptions exist but idk how to deal with them without way more time and resources (sioux). You hated EP6, man. But now it's OK because there's a more exciting patch out to hate more. You're a sheep?

I think all EPs > RE. So if the devs choose anything from ESOC to act as base balance I'll be content. And I have a hunch they'll do just that.
I didn't hate EP6 at all, that's a fake news lol.

I hated the first version of EP6 which was even worse than EP7, but eventually it changed into a normal patch I hardly criticized.
OK, then maybe EP 7 will too?
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bepsi wrote:
giannisKING wrote:What I care more about is not new civs/map and gameplay changes , but bringing many new players to the game(which I doubt will happend).
As a matter of fact there has been a recent surge - often tallying around 2k users - on the ESO servers. Sadly this spike in activity is not reflected on the (only relevant) community webpage. I have lamented this before and I simply can't comprehend why ESOC won't adopt a broadchurch attitude to the game in regards to the fan- vs RE patch.
I have talked with a lot of people irl about this game and the majority knows it and has played in the (very) past, however it didn't seemed to be apealing. Most people who buy this game on steam sales play it for 2-3 games and never try it again, and let's be honest, AOE3 gameplay is sort of repuslive at beginner level.
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