Whats the point of noobbashing/smurfing/trolling

[Challenger_Marco]

Smurfing is fun would do it anyday,I will play for improving my civs so that I don't lose stuff on my main acc for free.

[princeofkabul]

sometimes I like to play anonymously so smurfing is an option for it.

[dansil92]

Well most people I play who where capt/major or even higher some 3-4 years ago are all 2nd-/1st lt in spite of relatively active play. The rampant smurfing lately have basically culled the general pr of the casual 25-30 pr segment. I believe no good fan patch player would risk precious pr playing on re where map screws and civ imbalance is a factor to be reckoned with and so chooses to smurf instead.

I really cannot say enough about how true this is. Nearly all smurfs end up falling in the leut-captain range and its a complete crapshoot what you're gonna get. When i play vs friends who i know are pr24-27 i find the game fun and dynamic and fairly equally matched. If its vs randoms, about 2/3 of the time i may as well just play in a pr35+ lobby. The ability to Play casual ranked games after MS rank is nearly impossible it seems, so my pr sits at low 20s since I cannot seem to find enough fair games to ever rank up. Oh and moesbar at leut level is stupidly common too I've discovered, so that's a factor too. Seems even rec game doesnt scare them off anymore

[Kaiserklein]

So 2/3 of the lt/capt accs are pr35+ smurfs? This is getting ridiculous lol. How come when I smurf I almost always find myself playing vs legit pr25 ish players then?

[supahons]

Unfortunately many aspiring legendary players couldn't achieve their field marshal rank because of smurfing. There's simply no other explanation.

[edeholland]

Smurfs is the worst. Yesterday I thought I was playing against Kaiserklein (on one of alt-accounts) but I turned to be playing against a small blue guy with a white hat. His vocabulary was also afwul, worst match I played this week.

[HeadKilla]

So 2/3 of the lt/capt accs are pr35+ smurfs? This is getting ridiculous lol. How come when I smurf I almost always find myself playing vs legit pr25 ish players then?

Have you been smurfing me?

[Kaiserklein]

No, I barely ever smurf nowadays

[bepsi]

Well most people I play who where capt/major or even higher some 3-4 years ago are all 2nd-/1st lt in spite of relatively active play. The rampant smurfing lately have basically culled the general pr of the casual 25-30 pr segment. I believe no good fan patch player would risk precious pr playing on re where map screws and civ imbalance is a factor to be reckoned with and so chooses to smurf instead.

I really cannot say enough about how true this is. Nearly all smurfs end up falling in the leut-captain range and its a complete crapshoot what you're gonna get. When i play vs friends who i know are pr24-27 i find the game fun and dynamic and fairly equally matched. If its vs randoms, about 2/3 of the time i may as well just play in a pr35+ lobby. The ability to Play casual ranked games after MS rank is nearly impossible it seems, so my pr sits at low 20s since I cannot seem to find enough fair games to ever rank up. Oh and moesbar at leut level is stupidly common too I've discovered, so that's a factor too. Seems even rec game doesnt scare them off anymore

To be fair ESOC basically endorses this kind of behavior and have allowed at least a few patently good players to compete intermediate division of the current tournament. It is almost as if someone 'identifies' as 1st lt/captain, well, then they truly are.

[Kaiserklein]

No, the seeding was done by Elo..? How is it Esoc endorsing anything?

[gibson]

So 2/3 of the lt/capt accs are pr35+ smurfs? This is getting ridiculous lol. How come when I smurf I almost always find myself playing vs legit pr25 ish players then?

Yea saying that 2/3s of lt/captains are pr35+ is just a lie and probably a way that people cope with losing to those players. Its very rare for me to find someone that rank who's a smurf, and when I do it's almost always because I'm streaming, and it wouldnt happen otherwise.

[bepsi]

No, the seeding was done by Elo..? How is it Esoc endorsing anything?

By allowing well-known players to enter the tournament on new accounts of course.

[HeadKilla]

No, the seeding was done by Elo..? How is it Esoc endorsing anything?

By allowing well-known players to enter the tournament on new accounts of course.

Like who?

[Kaiserklein]

No, the seeding was done by Elo..? How is it Esoc endorsing anything?

By allowing well-known players to enter the tournament on new accounts of course.

Tell us who please

[Scroogie]

Well most people I play who where capt/major or even higher some 3-4 years ago are all 2nd-/1st lt in spite of relatively active play. The rampant smurfing lately have basically culled the general pr of the casual 25-30 pr segment. I believe no good fan patch player would risk precious pr playing on re where map screws and civ imbalance is a factor to be reckoned with and so chooses to smurf instead.

I really cannot say enough about how true this is. Nearly all smurfs end up falling in the leut-captain range and its a complete crapshoot what you're gonna get. When i play vs friends who i know are pr24-27 i find the game fun and dynamic and fairly equally matched. If its vs randoms, about 2/3 of the time i may as well just play in a pr35+ lobby. The ability to Play casual ranked games after MS rank is nearly impossible it seems, so my pr sits at low 20s since I cannot seem to find enough fair games to ever rank up. Oh and moesbar at leut level is stupidly common too I've discovered, so that's a factor too. Seems even rec game doesnt scare them off anymore

To be fair ESOC basically endorses this kind of behavior and have allowed at least a few patently good players to compete intermediate division of the current tournament. It is almost as if someone 'identifies' as 1st lt/captain, well, then they truly are.

What are you talking about? U should feel ashamed spreading false information like this.

[IGNDontay]

The person talking about the seeding, and ESOC allowing certain things to fly isn’t wrong. The fact i’m not the only one who thinks so or notices goes to show something. I don’t usually see anyone else calling esoc on their shit though. Although that is a bit off topic from the thread, there are 110% more skilled players entering lower skilled competitions on smurf’s so it’s still on topic and if they could IP accs and ban players attempting to do it then we would be better off. I am

not

saying that esoc is okay with it or is even aware but just that it’s for sure happening cause we have cancer people like that here. There’s smurfing in every game but this community is so small it actually effects it vastly. For these people to care about the game enough to smurf and ruin the casual/normal aoe player unknowingly to them even, is pretty annoying to say the least.
I’ve said it before though that there’s nepotism on these forums and thats probably something we have to live with since this is their site. it’s cool though let them live in their bubble.
It’s dope though they had a player rating consensus from the community or whatever and lecastrates was pretty much all troll lmao. big sexi manboy
I do wonder though if this community was larger and microsoft got better sales and stuff how many of our top players in this small smurf ridden community would be outshined and made to look mediocre by players who simply haven’t aoed. Showing us builds and metas that are there but untapped because our current ‘top players’ are all arrogant, call things bad and only do try hard builds with certain civs to win. How about that, smurfs?

[bepsi]

To be honest I couldn't care less about the issue I brought to attention and if ESOC elo is the main criteria for selection to respective divisions I have little to add. Suffice to say then that anyone can groom an account elo-wise for the sake of easier oppostion.

[Kaiserklein]

To be honest I couldn't care less about the issue I brought to attention and if ESOC elo is the main criteria for selection to respective divisions I have little to add. Suffice to say then that anyone can groom an account elo-wise for the sake of easier oppostion.

1) ep elo is one criteria, jp elo the other. In fact as it's current jp, but max ep, I think it makes jp elo more important.
2) seeding by ep elo (or by any elo) is not very accurate, but you're welcome to give us a perfect formula
3) you said esoc allowed smurfs in the tourney, but seems like that was just a lie?

[flontier]

To be honest I couldn't care less about the issue I brought to attention and if ESOC elo is the main criteria for selection to respective divisions I have little to add. Suffice to say then that anyone can groom an account elo-wise for the sake of easier oppostion.

1) ep elo is one criteria, jp elo the other. In fact as it's current jp, but max ep, I think it makes jp elo more important.
2) seeding by ep elo (or by any elo) is not very accurate, but you're welcome to give us a perfect formula
3) you said esoc allowed smurfs in the tourney, but seems like that was just a lie?

Yes dont bother answer him, this guy is a troll trying to raise childry polemic about esoc stuffs in each of his 89 posts.

[Challenger_Marco]

To be honest I couldn't care less about the issue I brought to attention and if ESOC elo is the main criteria for selection to respective divisions I have little to add. Suffice to say then that anyone can groom an account elo-wise for the sake of easier oppostion.

1) ep elo is one criteria, jp elo the other. In fact as it's current jp, but max ep, I think it makes jp elo more important.
2) seeding by ep elo (or by any elo) is not very accurate, but you're welcome to give us a perfect formula
3) you said esoc allowed smurfs in the tourney, but seems like that was just a lie?

Yes dont bother answer him, this guy is a troll trying to raise childry polemic about esoc stuffs in each of his 89 posts.

And dongtay?

[bepsi]

3) you said esoc allowed smurfs in the tourney, but seems like that was just a lie?

I claimed that people are allowed to play on new accounts which by definition is not the same as smurfing. Given that only ESOC elo is taken into consideration during the seeding process the point is moot however and so there is little to discuss.

[Scroogie]

3) you said esoc allowed smurfs in the tourney, but seems like that was just a lie?

I claimed that people are allowed to play on new accounts which by definition is not the same as smurfing. Given that only ESOC elo is taken into consideration during the seeding process the point is moot however and so there is little to discuss.

JP elo and EP Elo are taken into consideration. Maybe you should read like 2 sentences of the rules?

[harcha]

how will you not allow people to play on new accounts? what is a new account?

[bepsi]

The point I alluded to is obvious and I don't feel like kicking a dead horse more than necessary. Seeing that the discussion as such has degenerated to mudslinging, sophistry and ad hominem I don't want to continue participating in it any further.

[Hawk_Girl]

To be honest I couldn't care less about the issue I brought to attention and if ESOC elo is the main criteria for selection to respective divisions I have little to add. Suffice to say then that anyone can groom an account elo-wise for the sake of easier oppostion.

1) ep elo is one criteria, jp elo the other. In fact as it's current jp, but max ep, I think it makes jp elo more important.
2) seeding by ep elo (or by any elo) is not very accurate, but you're welcome to give us a perfect formula
3) you said esoc allowed smurfs in the tourney, but seems like that was just a lie?

For the big tournaments I guess it would be cool to get some seeding off previous big tournament's results like they do in many sports.