Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
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Yeah easy drag I’m not a fan of. I like to be able to select whatever I want but it may be better in most situations to use military drag for simplicity.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
I got used to easy drag mostly because when you play germany you always have uhlans popping in your vils and it's annoying lol. I think either way is fine, easy drag or not.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Just have different waypoint for military units from TC.Kaiserklein wrote:I got used to easy drag mostly because when you play germany you always have uhlans popping in your vils and it's annoying lol.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
What I'm saying is I got used to using it. As in, back when I was a nilla pr30 or whatever. I cba to change my habits, just like I won't ever use hotkeys to prod units or to change units stance I guess.
Anyway, I often use a different waypoint for military nowadays, yeah
Anyway, I often use a different waypoint for military nowadays, yeah
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Double click is great.
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Yep. Can't believe some people haven't figured this out. Noob.Garja wrote:Just have different waypoint for military units from TC.Kaiserklein wrote:I got used to easy drag mostly because when you play germany you always have uhlans popping in your vils and it's annoying lol.
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I also said i wont ever change my habits and cba use hotkeys for produce units. Then H2O flamed The shit out of me for being a noob like flooky and I changed it. Thanks ryxxKaiserklein wrote:What I'm saying is I got used to using it. As in, back when I was a nilla pr30 or whatever. I cba to change my habits, just like I won't ever use hotkeys to prod units or to change units stance I guess.
Anyway, I often use a different waypoint for military nowadays, yeah
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
No problem! Don’t be lazy!
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Here's some vill ponch base defense with ez drag military, which I'll never turn off, and I'll never use alt drag either:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/560660324
Looking for feedback that isn't only "just have more apm." Also I have alt mapped to my mouse, so every time I press it to see hp my mouse moves a little. I'm wondering if this is affecting my mouse precision in micro-intensive fights.
I think I lost 3 vills
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/560660324
Looking for feedback that isn't only "just have more apm." Also I have alt mapped to my mouse, so every time I press it to see hp my mouse moves a little. I'm wondering if this is affecting my mouse precision in micro-intensive fights.
I think I lost 3 vills
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Tbh what would be way more fun than TTM is some sort of vill ponch defense. Set up identical situations of actual games where great micro won a fight.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Like this fight:
This is one of my favorite aoe3 moments
This is one of my favorite aoe3 moments
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Honestly watching @Guigs closely today when he was streaming, I was really impressed with his micro. He hit and runs well, and always manages to split fire with goons (swaggin wagons) and skirms every volley, which is not easy. It's basically required with EP ger, which makes it a very hard civ to play now.
The trick I learned, which I should've already known, is to select part of the army and manually click/attack move, then select the entire control group and attack move. It's hard under pressure snared and kiting and you have to be very precise. The resulting split fire is then executed across a few milliseconds, which is well worth they momentary immobility, to kill thrice the units.
The trick I learned, which I should've already known, is to select part of the army and manually click/attack move, then select the entire control group and attack move. It's hard under pressure snared and kiting and you have to be very precise. The resulting split fire is then executed across a few milliseconds, which is well worth they momentary immobility, to kill thrice the units.
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Your positioning was good, but it could have been even better. If you put your army between the two manors, the melee area would have beeen about 2 time smaller.deleted_user wrote:Here's some vill ponch base defense with ez drag military, which I'll never turn off, and I'll never use alt drag either:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/560660324
Looking for feedback that isn't only "just have more apm." Also I have alt mapped to my mouse, so every time I press it to see hp my mouse moves a little. I'm wondering if this is affecting my mouse precision in micro-intensive fights.
I think I lost 3 vills
Other than that, the vill pull was super effective but you could have pulled the vills earlier to save more units.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Thanks it hadn't occurred to me to do that even upon rewatch. This thread is very edifying, thanks (no sarcasm at all)[Armag] diarouga wrote:Your positioning was good, but it could have been even better. If you put your army between the two manors, the melee area would have beeen about 2 time smaller.deleted_user wrote:Here's some vill ponch base defense with ez drag military, which I'll never turn off, and I'll never use alt drag either:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/560660324
Looking for feedback that isn't only "just have more apm." Also I have alt mapped to my mouse, so every time I press it to see hp my mouse moves a little. I'm wondering if this is affecting my mouse precision in micro-intensive fights.
I think I lost 3 vills
Other than that, the vill pull was super effective but you could have pulled the vills earlier to save more units.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
It's a nice trick for sure but keep in mind that positioning is much more important than micro.deleted_user wrote:Honestly watching @Guigs closely today when he was streaming, I was really impressed with his micro. He hit and runs well, and always manages to split fire with goons (swaggin wagons) and skirms every volley, which is not easy. It's basically required with EP ger, which makes it a very hard civ to play now.
The trick I learned, which I should've already known, is to select part of the army and manually click/attack move, then select the entire control group and attack move. It's hard under pressure snared and kiting and you have to be very precise. The resulting split fire is then executed across a few milliseconds, which is well worth they momentary immobility, to kill thrice the units.
From experience, I know that some people focus too much on micro trying to split fire and barely win a fight while a better positioning would have won easily.
I'd say castete as Iro vs China was a good example. His micro was honestly impressive, he managed to hit and run well while splitting his skirm fire but in the end he barely won the fight. With his kanyas/goons in position however, the hit and run would have been much easier and he would have crushed this fight with just attack move.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
This thread proves there's more to microing a fight than one might think, and microing is super important as it can potentially be a 1k-2k res swing, and game winning or losing. Probably not more important than pure macro, but very important nonetheless.
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Not really. It proves that micro is important when you're totally out of position because you want to get in position with minimal losses.deleted_user wrote:This thread proves there's more to microing a fight than one might think, and microing is super important as it can potentially be a 1k-2k res swing, and game winning or losing. Probably not more important than pure macro, but very important nonetheless.
Being careful (like not overcommiting) is actually more important.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
that's all fine but sometimes you are faced with a defensive scenario when you have vils and military intermixed under your tc. in this case your stubbornness can cause you to miss out on vils punching due to inability to select vils. this is the reason why i keep this setting off: to me it is better to select more stuff than you want instead of less stuff than you wantdeleted_user wrote:Here's some vill ponch base defense with ez drag military, which I'll never turn off, and I'll never use alt drag either...
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Positioning is a part of micro imo.[Armag] diarouga wrote:Not really. It proves that micro is important when you're totally out of position because you want to get in position with minimal losses.deleted_user wrote:This thread proves there's more to microing a fight than one might think, and microing is super important as it can potentially be a 1k-2k res swing, and game winning or losing. Probably not more important than pure macro, but very important nonetheless.
Being careful (like not overcommiting) is actually more important.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Sure, but for many people, micro is about splitting fire and having a lot of APM. You can have a good positioning with 100 APM, and it's much more important than clicking everywhere.deleted_user wrote:Positioning is a part of micro imo.[Armag] diarouga wrote:Not really. It proves that micro is important when you're totally out of position because you want to get in position with minimal losses.deleted_user wrote:This thread proves there's more to microing a fight than one might think, and microing is super important as it can potentially be a 1k-2k res swing, and game winning or losing. Probably not more important than pure macro, but very important nonetheless.
Being careful (like not overcommiting) is actually more important.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Fair assessment!
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
Talking with @zoom about the brooken flag army had me re-watching a recent stream where I didn't train a single skirm or iron flail in a ~30min game vs Russia. It had some pretty interesting fights, would be curious to hear thoughts on the positioning/micro of both players and perhaps whether this would be possible or not without the new army. Interestingly, fight 3 was preceded by the worst score gap (20-30 behind Russia). No upgrade cards were in effect until fight 4 (Territorial Combat, RV). Presumably Russia had boyars for all 4.
Fight 1: https://www.twitch.tv/howtotalkpleasehe ... onDAESuppy
Fight 2: https://www.twitch.tv/howtotalkpleasehe ... TwitchRaid
Fight 3: https://www.twitch.tv/howtotalkpleasehe ... rugulaBIRB
Fight 4: https://www.twitch.tv/howtotalkpleasehe ... zAllenHuhu
Fight 1: https://www.twitch.tv/howtotalkpleasehe ... onDAESuppy
Fight 2: https://www.twitch.tv/howtotalkpleasehe ... TwitchRaid
Fight 3: https://www.twitch.tv/howtotalkpleasehe ... rugulaBIRB
Fight 4: https://www.twitch.tv/howtotalkpleasehe ... zAllenHuhu
Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
whats the point of selecting part of your control group if you gonna attack move them? How is that compared to just attack move with full control group? or is that only to overkill less?deleted_user wrote:Honestly watching @Guigs closely today when he was streaming, I was really impressed with his micro. He hit and runs well, and always manages to split fire with goons (swaggin wagons) and skirms every volley, which is not easy. It's basically required with EP ger, which makes it a very hard civ to play now.
The trick I learned, which I should've already known, is to select part of the army and manually click/attack move, then select the entire control group and attack move. It's hard under pressure snared and kiting and you have to be very precise. The resulting split fire is then executed across a few milliseconds, which is well worth they momentary immobility, to kill thrice the units.
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Re: Official "Can I Win This Fight?" Thread
such an nice micro ,most ppl would have panicked to the 9 uhlans and overmicor'd and lostdeleted_user wrote:Like this fight:
This is one of my favorite aoe3 moments
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