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sioux lose to iro otto.
lose to india rush on many maps.
lose to japan boom/rush/sea.
lose to french.
lose to port and brit on water maps.
lose to aztec rush/boom.
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bowriders :)
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blackbob68 wrote:bowriders :)


then what? can they beat french cdbs? or frigates? or sepoy/ashi/mace?
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..and win against everything else

Seriously, if they don't win comfortably they just lose.

They are also strategically very easy because:
- They don't have any eco options and have obvious shipment/politician choices.
- Their cavalry are so much better than their inf that they have no actual options when it comes to their army composition.
- Their style promotes passive play from their opponent resulting in strategically boring games.
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Sioux are broken because while Bow Riders are ridiculously strong, their infantry and water capabilities are lackluster.

To answer your question though: Bow Riders combined with no houses.
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should a boomy aztec stay in Age 2 or should aztec Age 3 against Sioux?

if they should Age 3, which is the BO, when to send 600 g?
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You have siege dance to help you win water and I doubt people that play iro, otto, jap or French against them call them lame ^^
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Thy beat Japan and I'm pretty sure they beat France too :).

Civs very good
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How would Sioux be favored against Japanese?
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Because Ashi are not the best anticav in the world so it's impossible to stop axe wakina with a few dog soldiers and riffle riders from cards.
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I fail to see how Japanese do not destroy that.

Boomy semi-ff with Yumi spam and walling. Good luck countering that with Sioux...
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h2o wrote:Because Ashi are not the best anticav in the world so it''s impossible to stop axe wakina with a few dog soldiers and riffle riders from cards.
75/25 Yumi/Ashi with export spent on Yamabushi should REKT Axe??Wakina. I don''t understand.
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Sioux beats india

@mankle: Nah, no way sioux can beat a good jap. What can you do vs yumis behind 10 walls? Sure you can kill shrines but he will reshrine and when you reach the late game, you just can not win as sioux, ashi raids+op late game will rape you.
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zoom wrote:
h2o wrote:Because Ashi are not the best anticav in the world so its impossible to stop axe wakina with a few dog soldiers and riffle riders from cards.
75/25 Yumi/Ashi with export spent on Yamabushi should REKT Axe??Wakina. I dont understand.
Without walls sioux might do well vs japan but vs walls you wont win^^.
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I don't see how semi axe win jap rush neither
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@benj89: Nah sioux have no problems with the rush

@Neuron: Japan's eco is still much better with shrines at home.
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the time you siege 15 shrine with 10 axe and the guy has 2 layers of wall and age3 lol
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I'm not saying they have a problem with the rush. i'm saying his semi axe strat doesn't work if the guy rush
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some kynesie play vs a good sioux would probably end the discussion tho
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I don't think siege dance is an option before 10 min anyway. and by that time you know what jap got if he walls
no clue abt who plays sioux well, bsop I suppose
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