impossible MU ??
Re: impossible MU ??
I feel like rushing is your best shot in most MUs where the opponent just gets a decent skirm/goon mass later on, otherwise you're just gonna get kited forever.
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Re: impossible MU ??
You have a scary timing in early/later fortress though. Rushing against 2 TCs with MM sounds like suicide.Lukas_L99 wrote:I feel like rushing is your best shot in most MUs where the opponent just gets a decent skirm/goon mass later on, otherwise you're just gonna get kited forever.
Re: impossible MU ??
Do you really have a scary early timing tho? WP ff is already slower than regular euro FFs and you need to upgrade mace/coy.
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Re: impossible MU ??
Yea, you do have a small window where you outmass hard.Lukas_L99 wrote:Do you really have a scary early timing tho? WP ff is already slower than regular euro FFs and you need to upgrade mace/coy.
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Re: impossible MU ??
Spain dutch ez win for dutch. I come from 2021.flontier wrote:Its tough to interpret, it mainly shows that in average people plays spain against lower opponent except in some ez mu like spain port and spain dutch.
At the contrary people need to have 1.5-2 pr margin against brit or china to feel confident enough ^^.
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Re: impossible MU ??
Could you do a version for PR 20-27? Would be interesting to compare.
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Re: impossible MU ??
You realize that's also quite the skill gap, right
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Yeah, but I'd say players at that rank aren't randomly button mashing, so it might be useful. And yes, I know I'm not good lol.jesus3 wrote:You realize that's also quite the skill gap, right
Squamiger wrote:i just want to see a group of Sioux villagers. they are circled around a gold mine. They are swinging picks... but zoom in closer. What's that? They aren't mining gold. There is a huge pile of beavers and they are beating them to death
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Re: impossible MU ??
your avatar is so goodcaleb15 wrote:Yeah, but I'd say players at that rank aren't randomly button mashing, so it might be useful. And yes, I know I'm not good lol.jesus3 wrote:You realize that's also quite the skill gap, right
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Re: impossible MU ??
Send me a message if you want.caleb15 wrote:Could you do a version for PR 20-27? Would be interesting to compare.
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Re: impossible MU ??
Random question but I assume that this raw data came from somewhere?
Could someone share the link or how to access it? I really do like this type of analysis :)
Could someone share the link or how to access it? I really do like this type of analysis :)
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Re: impossible MU ??
I have scrapped from esoc elo and you can found the data here :purplesquid wrote:Random question but I assume that this raw data came from somewhere?
Could someone share the link or how to access it? I really do like this type of analysis :)
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Re: impossible MU ??
Thank you!chronique wrote:I have scrapped from esoc elo and you can found the data here :purplesquid wrote:Random question but I assume that this raw data came from somewhere?
Could someone share the link or how to access it? I really do like this type of analysis :)
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Re: impossible MU ??
bUt i nEeD 5 bAnKsWickedCossack wrote:Spain dutch ez win for dutch. I come from 2021.flontier wrote:Its tough to interpret, it mainly shows that in average people plays spain against lower opponent except in some ez mu like spain port and spain dutch.
At the contrary people need to have 1.5-2 pr margin against brit or china to feel confident enough ^^.
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Re: impossible MU ??
Are you the guy who hold falc all in with cav + vili ^^WickedCossack wrote:
Spain dutch ez win for dutch. I come from 2021.
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Re: impossible MU ??
Yes, he is. And it works surprisingly well.chronique wrote:Are you the guy who hold falc all in with cav + vili ^^WickedCossack wrote:
Spain dutch ez win for dutch. I come from 2021.
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Re: impossible MU ??
First time someone doing that to me lol. I have expected an ez win but not in this way.
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Re: impossible MU ??
It's amazing how many cool builds dutch have when you realise you don't need to 5 bank FF every time. I enjoyed the game, love the MU.chronique wrote:First time someone doing that to me lol. I have expected an ez win but not in this way.
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Re: impossible MU ??
And after that game i have re-play vs a dutch guy and wouldn't do agro ff because of you, so i have lose vs ff 5 bank... pls can you leave this game i want my 65% winrate intact vs dutch lol .WickedCossack wrote: It's amazing how many cool builds dutch have when you realise you don't need to 5 bank FF every time. I enjoyed the game, love the MU.
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Make agro ff great again!!!!chronique wrote:And after that game i have re-play vs a dutch guy and wouldn't do agro ff because of you, so i have lose vs ff 5 bank... pls can you leave this game i want my 65% winrate intact vs dutch lol .WickedCossack wrote: It's amazing how many cool builds dutch have when you realise you don't need to 5 bank FF every time. I enjoyed the game, love the MU.
Spain pain train is real
Re: impossible MU ??
other interesting stats are the difference between rush games and long games.
for brits vs french i got these results.
< 20min : 47%
20-40min : 48%
> 40min : 33%
If you want to win with brits against french don't wait until age 5
for brits vs french i got these results.
< 20min : 47%
20-40min : 48%
> 40min : 33%
If you want to win with brits against french don't wait until age 5
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Re: impossible MU ??
nice charts, but are the data across multiple EPs or just the most recent? @chronique
Re: impossible MU ??
for brits vs germans i got these results.
< 20min : 47%
20-40min : 46%
> 40min : 53%
So if you try to beat germans with brits your chances increase in age 5.
< 20min : 47%
20-40min : 46%
> 40min : 53%
So if you try to beat germans with brits your chances increase in age 5.
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Re: impossible MU ??
Since the begining of esoc elo so 2015. I can do the same for each patch (if i know the date of each one).vividlyplain wrote:nice charts, but are the data across multiple EPs or just the most recent? @chronique
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Re: impossible MU ??
I have do that with china and if i remember well, their winrate increased after 12/13 min (maybe you can confirm).Wipo82 wrote:other interesting stats are the difference between rush games and long games.
for brits vs french i got these results.
< 20min : 47%
20-40min : 48%
> 40min : 33%
If you want to win with brits against french don't wait until age 5
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