impossible MU ??
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Re: impossible MU ??
i'd like to know how weeeeak germany is on EP7
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Re: impossible MU ??
It's average now.vividlyplain wrote:i'd like to know how weeeeak germany is on EP7
People think it's weak because it used to have good winning chances in every MU and now Germany has bad MUs.
It's slightly weaker than the top civs (Brit, Japan, France etc) but still better than the UP civs (Aztec, Sioux, Spain and arguably Port). That's the definition of average.
Re: impossible MU ??
Port UP?
well they're hella good compared to RE port hmm
well they're hella good compared to RE port hmm
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Re: impossible MU ??
That's why I said arguably. I'm not totally sure about that, but I think that 5% on food is worse than 85f vills and Port was UP on normal maps with 85f vills.iNcog wrote:Port UP?
well they're hella good compared to RE port hmm
Re: impossible MU ??
I wouldnt know either. hmm. I dont even play them properly but if you have enough food to support your TCs seems they're competitive. and they suck terribly if not.[Armag] diarouga wrote:That's why I said arguably. I'm not totally sure about that, but I think that 5% on food is worse than 85f vills and Port was UP on normal maps with 85f vills.iNcog wrote:Port UP?
well they're hella good compared to RE port hmm
unlike Spain that can get out a few good units even without using up natural ressources too much
fuck idk
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Re: impossible MU ??
Give me the date of ep7 and i can do that, but not sure if its worth it because it will be a short period.vividlyplain wrote:i'd like to know how weeeeak germany is on EP7
Re: impossible MU ??
I may say french/german vs japan here: it's even worse than that in RE, while people didn't realize this.
everyone is saying "japan is not OP here""french/german is the meta", but everyone uses japan in incog's cup. Yumi with 10% attack bonus still beats skirm hard, while fre/get suffer more from fast age up/dragoon/uhlan HP/crate nerfs.
everyone is saying "japan is not OP here""french/german is the meta", but everyone uses japan in incog's cup. Yumi with 10% attack bonus still beats skirm hard, while fre/get suffer more from fast age up/dragoon/uhlan HP/crate nerfs.
Re: impossible MU ??
Japan is still OP, we saw it in the @iNcog´s empire cup. tbh maybe the winrate is the highest with japan in this cup if some1 has time to look for itfei123456 wrote:I may say french/german vs japan here: it's even worse than that in RE, while people didn't realize this.
everyone is saying "japan is not OP here""french/german is the meta", but everyone uses japan in incog's cup.
Spain pain train is real
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Re: impossible MU ??
Japan is a bit too strong because of the deck buff yea. France vs Japan is still France favoured imo.
Re: impossible MU ??
its hard to win vs japan when they still have more ranged artillery as france idk sometimes u just lose with good skirm/goon micro cuz of speedy ashis.[Armag] diarouga wrote:Japan is a bit too strong because of the deck buff yea. France vs Japan is still France favoured imo.
would need some tips vs japan
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Re: impossible MU ??
With good skirm/goon micro you beat ashi/nagi. The issue is that you need the perfect balance of skirm/goon to deal with ashi/nagi, and you lose if you get surprised by a 2 arrow shipment, but you can't scout it anymore because of the deck change.Rohbrot wrote:its hard to win vs japan when they still have more ranged artillery as france idk sometimes u just lose with good skirm/goon micro cuz of speedy ashis.[Armag] diarouga wrote:Japan is a bit too strong because of the deck buff yea. France vs Japan is still France favoured imo.
would need some tips vs japan
If he goes yumiWall with FA, you can kill all his shrines and then push with falc/culv and jap is actually weak in art wars because no culvs.
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With spain caba/skirm/mousket (but not for long its looks like).Rohbrot wrote:its hard to win vs japan when they still have more ranged artillery as france idk sometimes u just lose with good skirm/goon micro cuz of speedy ashis.[Armag] diarouga wrote:Japan is a bit too strong because of the deck buff yea. France vs Japan is still France favoured imo.
would need some tips vs japan
Re: impossible MU ??
chronique wrote:I have do that with china and if i remember well, their winrate increased after 12/13 min (maybe you can confirm).Wipo82 wrote:other interesting stats are the difference between rush games and long games.
for brits vs french i got these results.
< 20min : 47%
20-40min : 48%
> 40min : 33%
If you want to win with brits against french don't wait until age 5
according to stats you should rush with brits against chinese.
< 20min : 50%
20-40min : 40%
> 40min : 42%
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Re: impossible MU ??
20 min is not "rush" and its not what the stat said ^^. Correlation =/= causality.
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viewtopic.php?f=466&t=18694#p404335chronique wrote:Give me the date of ep7 and i can do that, but not sure if its worth it because it will be a short period.vividlyplain wrote:i'd like to know how weeeeak germany is on EP7
according to the above post that would be Dec 09/2019
you'd need to compare it to prior EPs i guess
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I can do thatvividlyplain wrote:viewtopic.php?f=466&t=18694#p404335chronique wrote:Give me the date of ep7 and i can do that, but not sure if its worth it because it will be a short period.vividlyplain wrote:i'd like to know how weeeeak germany is on EP7
according to the above post that would be Dec 09/2019
you'd need to compare it to prior EPs i guess
Re: impossible MU ??
700g 700w 6 skirm no eco FF is viable now, as the exalted prince gets nerfed. Eco is not that important against Japan: you can't outboom Japan, and you don't need to outboom him.Rohbrot wrote:its hard to win vs japan when they still have more ranged artillery as france idk sometimes u just lose with good skirm/goon micro cuz of speedy ashis.[Armag] diarouga wrote:Japan is a bit too strong because of the deck buff yea. France vs Japan is still France favoured imo.
would need some tips vs japan
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Re: impossible MU ??
You can outboom Japan actually.fei123456 wrote:700g 700w 6 skirm no eco FF is viable now, as the exalted prince gets nerfed. Eco is not that important against Japan: you can't outboom Japan, and you don't need to outboom him.Rohbrot wrote:its hard to win vs japan when they still have more ranged artillery as france idk sometimes u just lose with good skirm/goon micro cuz of speedy ashis.[Armag] diarouga wrote:Japan is a bit too strong because of the deck buff yea. France vs Japan is still France favoured imo.
would need some tips vs japan
Re: impossible MU ??
The thing is, if French invest too much on eco, he'll have to face fortress Japanese units with colonial xbow/musk.[Armag] diarouga wrote:You can outboom Japan actually.
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Why ? You semi ff and still have a good eco.fei123456 wrote:The thing is, if French invest too much on eco, he'll have to face fortress Japanese units with colonial xbow/musk.[Armag] diarouga wrote:You can outboom Japan actually.
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Its done and there are not enought data to detect any significant difference (in some mu there are 24 games played since the beginning of ep 7 lol).vividlyplain wrote:viewtopic.php?f=466&t=18694#p404335chronique wrote:Give me the date of ep7 and i can do that, but not sure if its worth it because it will be a short period.vividlyplain wrote:i'd like to know how weeeeak germany is on EP7
according to the above post that would be Dec 09/2019
you'd need to compare it to prior EPs i guess
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Re: impossible MU ??
would be cool to see this used to maybe update that old guide by @Goodspeed
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