Is Kaiserklein clearly the best player on ESOC right now?

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deleted_user wrote:NA players suffer a find-game debuff because the competitive population on NA servers is low and too varied in skill.

I don't think it's a coincidence that so many of the rising stars are French phenoms and other EU server players who can grind more games against better opponents. This is as true for forging skills as it is in honing the edge.
not having a top end east Asian community definitely hurts the NA players.
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Asian community is dead in aoe3, hence i don't play this game much
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Challenger_Marco wrote:Asian community is dead in aoe3, hence i don't play this game much
That's true. I wish this game would grab more of the Asian market considering that's where I live currently... Perhaps AOE 4 or AOE3 DE will help with this?
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Maybe after de asia also will be active :hehe:
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deleted_user wrote:NA players suffer a find-game debuff because the competitive population on NA servers is low and too varied in skill.

I don't think it's a coincidence that so many of the rising stars are French phenoms and other EU server players who can grind more games against better opponents. This is as true for forging skills as it is in honing the edge.
I agree with this. The NA scene seems pretty dead.

I actually think the EU scene has always been bigger. Nationalism is going to play a role in games like this. I know I loved aoe3 for the fact that I could play the Dutch, and I think there are actually quite a lot of Dutch players in the community.
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Podawe wrote:
Challenger_Marco wrote:Asian community is dead in aoe3, hence i don't play this game much
That's true. I wish this game would grab more of the Asian market considering that's where I live currently... Perhaps AOE 4 or AOE3 DE will help with this?
prolly aoe3 de ,but we won't see them coz of the life culture ,just hope alot of koreans or chinese play
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RefluxSemantic wrote:
deleted_user wrote:NA players suffer a find-game debuff because the competitive population on NA servers is low and too varied in skill.

I don't think it's a coincidence that so many of the rising stars are French phenoms and other EU server players who can grind more games against better opponents. This is as true for forging skills as it is in honing the edge.
I agree with this. The NA scene seems pretty dead.

I actually think the EU scene has always been bigger. Nationalism is going to play a role in games like this. I know I loved aoe3 for the fact that I could play the Dutch, and I think there are actually quite a lot of Dutch players in the community.
There used to be a really big NA/AU/NZ/Japan/Korea community so there were tons of good 1v1s and team games at night NA time.
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Challenger_Marco wrote:Asian community is dead in aoe3, hence i don't play this game much

Haha wtf is that signature :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

@Kawapasaka :lol:
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EU having more competitive players is a thing in many esports, not just in AOE3.

For ex, if you check out pro LoL players and their earnings, USA got less earnings than Denmark and Poland considered together: https://www.esportsearnings.com/games/1 ... /countries
Kinda same for number of esports players. Asia and Europe pretty much dominate.
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Qosashvili93 wrote:
Challenger_Marco wrote:Asian community is dead in aoe3, hence i don't play this game much

Haha wtf is that signature :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

@Kawapasaka :lol:
he was asking why I lame China so much, and some frustrating games against your China were my main inspiration
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Challenger_Marco wrote:Asian community is dead in aoe3, hence i don't play this game much
what is that signature lol @GiBthedurrty
krichk wrote:For some reason, you want the world to know that you're brave enough to challenge Challenger_Marco
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Kawapasaka wrote:
Qosashvili93 wrote:
Challenger_Marco wrote:Asian community is dead in aoe3, hence i don't play this game much

Haha wtf is that signature :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

@Kawapasaka :lol:
he was asking why I lame China so much, and some frustrating games against your China were my main inspiration
to defeat the piece of shit broken civ, you must first become the piece of shit broken civ

:lol: :lol: :lol: haha

Thats why Im starting now lame botto
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But can he do it on a cold rainy night in stoke?
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Definitely – if we ignore Winter. Most likely if we dont.
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Zutazuta wrote:Either him or Vic. Practically a coin flip
Let’s be real for a minute. Both are EPL champions, but Vic hasn’t dropped a game yet. Kaisers busy dropping games left and right. Another vote for the swe!
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I will declare this thread as fake news..
everyone with at last 50 IQ knows that Rohbrot is currently the best player :kinggreen:
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Bro the day Kaiserbitch beats me in a RISK match is the day I will say hes the best. Right now hes another scrub nub playing 1v1 like a noob.
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RefluxSemantic wrote:
deleted_user wrote:NA players suffer a find-game debuff because the competitive population on NA servers is low and too varied in skill.

I don't think it's a coincidence that so many of the rising stars are French phenoms and other EU server players who can grind more games against better opponents. This is as true for forging skills as it is in honing the edge.
I agree with this. The NA scene seems pretty dead.

I actually think the EU scene has always been bigger. Nationalism is going to play a role in games like this. I know I loved aoe3 for the fact that I could play the Dutch, and I think there are actually quite a lot of Dutch players in the community.
Then again, the game theme is "the new world". There are native Americans and the maps are on the NA continent.

I think bigger factors are that there are just more Europeans than North Americans (twice as many?), and that Europeans are more into RTS (SC2 NA server is known as the "easy" one). Maybe more into (video) games in general. In a tiny community like AoE3's those differences are amplified.
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Goodspeed wrote:
RefluxSemantic wrote:
deleted_user wrote:NA players suffer a find-game debuff because the competitive population on NA servers is low and too varied in skill.

I don't think it's a coincidence that so many of the rising stars are French phenoms and other EU server players who can grind more games against better opponents. This is as true for forging skills as it is in honing the edge.
I agree with this. The NA scene seems pretty dead.

I actually think the EU scene has always been bigger. Nationalism is going to play a role in games like this. I know I loved aoe3 for the fact that I could play the Dutch, and I think there are actually quite a lot of Dutch players in the community.
Then again, the game theme is "the new world". There are native Americans and the maps are on the NA continent.

I think bigger factors are that there are just more Europeans than North Americans (twice as many?), and that Europeans are more into RTS (SC2 NA server is known as the "easy" one). Maybe more into (video) games in general. In a tiny community like AoE3's those differences are amplified.
The NA server is known as the easy one in every single game, not just RTS.
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Mitoe wrote:
Goodspeed wrote:
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Then again, the game theme is "the new world". There are native Americans and the maps are on the NA continent.

I think bigger factors are that there are just more Europeans than North Americans (twice as many?), and that Europeans are more into RTS (SC2 NA server is known as the "easy" one). Maybe more into (video) games in general. In a tiny community like AoE3's those differences are amplified.
The NA server is known as the easy one in every single game, not just RTS.
It's the hardcore server on a few games actually.
Like "avoiding mass killings", "paying for higher education" and "surviving coronavirus".
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Um... except for... er, call of duty.. heh heh

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Cocaine wrote:Bro the day Kaiserbitch beats me in a RISK match is the day I will say hes the best. Right now hes another scrub nub playing 1v1 like a noob.
Could be a funny joke if only you didn't cheat in basically all possible ways, including cheat Risk versions lol
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LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
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Mitoe wrote:
Goodspeed wrote:
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Then again, the game theme is "the new world". There are native Americans and the maps are on the NA continent.

I think bigger factors are that there are just more Europeans than North Americans (twice as many?), and that Europeans are more into RTS (SC2 NA server is known as the "easy" one). Maybe more into (video) games in general. In a tiny community like AoE3's those differences are amplified.
The NA server is known as the easy one in every single game, not just RTS.
New theory: The NA server sucks because Muricans are so busy being slaves of the big corporations that there is no time to have hobbies.
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I think there are lots of factors involved in why NA players don't perform very well in esports.

I don't think it's the population argument, because South Korea doesn't have a bigger population than the USA, but they score way better than NA players in esports.

It's more likely that the USA has worse internet infrastructure, because the country is very large and there's a huge distance between cities, so the cost of cabling is much higher compared to South Korea or Europe, where cities are much closer. So they probably have higher pings than SK and Euro players overall.

Also, in the USA there is a bigger focus on entertainment and drama, than on actual performance. So their top players focus on streaming and making money off of it, putting on a show, rather than being part of a highly competitive scene.

Then there might be other factors, like maybe in the USA being seen as an "esports pro" is not so socially impressive as being an actual sports pro. They tend to see gamers as nerds and that's not so glorified in the USA as much as "American football" celebs and basketball players.

There might be some other factors that make EU and SK players have a different mentality and train harder to be successful, while NA players focus more on the showmanship stuff and monetising.
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