Is Kaiserklein clearly the best player on ESOC right now?

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Dolan wrote: Then there might be other factors, like maybe in the USA being seen as an "esports pro" is not so socially impressive as being an actual sports pro. They tend to see gamers as nerds and that's not so glorified in the USA as much as "American football" celebs and basketball players.
It's the exact same in Germany (just with football instead of american football/basketball) and probably most other countries, I'm pretty sure.
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Dolan wrote: Then there might be other factors, like maybe in the USA being seen as an "esports pro" is not so socially impressive as being an actual sports pro. They tend to see gamers as nerds and that's not so glorified in the USA as much as "American football" celebs and basketball players.
i can guarantee you that Europeans also see gamers as nerds
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I don't doubt that, but I'm saying that European "nerds" would rather get good at the games to have a chance at winning money from tourneys.
While Americans focus more on making a career out of streaming. They choose the easy and quick way to money-making through hype, rather than the hard way to the same goal.

So they feel they don't need to be among the best in the world to be successful at a game, if they can get a number of subscribers to support them, they're fine with that.
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I actually think from a financial point of view becoming a succesful content creator isnt just the quick and easy way. Its also the superior way to go about things. I do suppose Americans will tend more towards that direction, since its easier for native speakers.

That still doesnt explain why entire servers (mostly filled with people that arent professionals) are weaker in NA than the EU servers are.
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NA is fine at shooters, overwatch, csgo, cod, soon to be valorant.
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gibson wrote:NA is fine at shooters, overwatch, csgo, cod, soon to be valorant.
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Lol you just haven't seen @Hazza54321 smashing everybody on cs go
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Kaiserklein wrote:
Cocaine wrote:Bro the day Kaiserbitch beats me in a RISK match is the day I will say hes the best. Right now hes another scrub nub playing 1v1 like a noob.
Could be a funny joke if only you didn't cheat in basically all possible ways, including cheat Risk versions lol
LOL! Man oh man the easiest way to get out of a challenge is to accuse someone of hacking and thus not even try. Good one. Thats why you're "the best" bro.
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Dolan wrote:I don't doubt that, but I'm saying that European "nerds" would rather get good at the games to have a chance at winning money from tourneys.
While Americans focus more on making a career out of streaming. They choose the easy and quick way to money-making through hype, rather than the hard way to the same goal.

So they feel they don't need to be among the best in the world to be successful at a game, if they can get a number of subscribers to support them, they're fine with that.
NA are best in fighting game (ssbu for exemple).
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Does last night's match against Lukas once again prove this correct? I mean that was a very decisive victory. Kaiser once again sweeping another series against a top-rated player. Is there anyone who can stop his reign of terror?
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I would go gay for kaiserklein or maybe mitoe.
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Lecastete wrote:Lol you just haven't seen @Hazza54321 smashing everybody on cs go
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kaiser is def the best player RN by quite a big margin too. Ofc theres hazza but hes inconsistent and doesnt like 1v1. Apart from hazza theres no one who can realistically challenge kaiser atm. Mitoe might be able to, if he hits a perfect day, diarouga if hes on form .tho i think peak kaiser vs peak diarouga would be won by kaiser. They are kind of similar in style, but kaiser has the better micro, which makes it hard for Diarouga to get an advantage
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lordraphael wrote:kaiser is def the best player RN by quite a big margin too. Ofc theres hazza but hes inconsistent and doesnt like 1v1. Apart from hazza theres no one who can realistically challenge kaiser atm. Mitoe might be able to, if he hits a perfect day, diarouga if hes on form .tho i think peak kaiser vs peak diarouga would be won by kaiser. They are kind of similar in style, but kaiser has the better micro, which makes it hard for Diarouga to get an advantage
can't imagine how angry this will make diarouga when he reads it
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i sacrifice my aztec villagers every day at the temple of the sun in hopes that the God _H2O will one day return to cleanse the land of Kaiserklein's domination
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Kaiser is a god yes but can he do a 5 hussar semi ff into 7 layers of walls into dragoons in major roulette? I doubt it.
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I think Kaiser is probably top 1 yeah
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iNcog wrote:I think Kaiser is probably top 1 yeah
Not when iamturk is around. He gives him a nice run for his money.
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Cocaine wrote:
Kaiserklein wrote:
Cocaine wrote:Bro the day Kaiserbitch beats me in a RISK match is the day I will say hes the best. Right now hes another scrub nub playing 1v1 like a noob.
Could be a funny joke if only you didn't cheat in basically all possible ways, including cheat Risk versions lol
LOL! Man oh man the easiest way to get out of a challenge is to accuse someone of hacking and thus not even try. Good one. Thats why you're "the best" bro.
ur not a challenge without monstertrucks
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i am really enjoying plays by kaiser at the moment and currently he is easily #1. He is my joint second fav player with mitoe (my fav being Aiz in case you were curious).
when it comes to the title of GOAT though I'd say Rapha and H2O would edge him, were they active. Rapha at his prime was the ultimate German Machine - ruthless, no errors whatsoever, 100% correct decisions and timings.
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sebnan12 wrote:
Cocaine wrote:
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LOL! Man oh man the easiest way to get out of a challenge is to accuse someone of hacking and thus not even try. Good one. Thats why you're "the best" bro.
ur not a challenge without monstertrucks
Omg... U do realize theres been fake accounts made for a lot of players right? I was one of the ones targeted.

@Kaiserklein is this what u meant?
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sebnan12 wrote:
Cocaine wrote:
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LOL! Man oh man the easiest way to get out of a challenge is to accuse someone of hacking and thus not even try. Good one. Thats why you're "the best" bro.
ur not a challenge without monstertrucks
Check account creation date next time you want to accuse me of doing that. You will see that moltke impersonators made their account in April. this year. How can that possibly be me. Oh wait I forgot you're stupid.
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When am I gonna get my account impersonator. Everybody else seems to be getting one these days
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rsy wrote:When am I gonna get my account impersonator. Everybody else seems to be getting one these days
make it yourself... the saying goes fake it till you make it
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