Bank wagon versus 4 vills

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So just a quick question if banks = 4 bills on coin why wouldn't some send 4 vills instead of a bank wagon? Vills can gather food/wood or coin unlike a bank. So can any1 give me an explanation why so many people send the bank wagon?
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Bank can't be raided.

Ignores villager walking time.

Your coin mines last longer.

I think the 4 vils also need coin market techs or else they gather less than 1 bank.

Bank good for sim city.

Just too many downsides.
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I think because the bank wagon gathers constantly, even if you are being raided or if your gold mine runs out. Banks create resources out of thin air, so you don't run out of mines as quickly as many other civs do. Because of that, you don't need as much map control, or rather you can outlast your opponent if you have the same amount of map control.

Also, I think a bank wagon might be 4.5 villagers.
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Already they answered you correctly so i haven't to repeat what they said. Anyway i totally agree with both
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Ok thanks for quick answering, I just been analyzing my gameplay and seeing what I could improve on.
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You also get some XP out of building the bank.
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Banks are not only unraidable (unless your opponent happens to have cannons or 20 pike in the neighborhood), they can also be used for defensive purposes. They have so many hp that they are virtually impassable in the early game, making skirm camping much more viable for the Dutch player.
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wuangaga wrote:You also get some XP out of building the bank.
Do you also get it from the bank wagon? I never really paid attention to this.
And since we''re at it, do towers from ageup give xp for building it too?
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sim city isn't a big factor imo because you could just spend 5w on a wall. Also, I'm pretty sure the vills being able to gather other resources and be upgraded almost balances out the unraidibility. Imo the biggest thing is first the xp, then the gold mine depletion
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macacoalbino wrote:
wuangaga wrote:You also get some XP out of building the bank.
Do you also get it from the bank wagon? I never really paid attention to this.
And since were at it, do towers from ageup give xp for building it too?
Bank wagon does, tower not sure
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Even 300 wood seems better than vills for early pressure. Against civs like fucking germans it just seems so much stronger.
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they all do
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Main point is that 4vills=1bank
At some point you want to have your banks anyway' the 4vills cost 400c, the bank 350w/f which is much more expensive.
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Bank=4v with both gold ups and you won't up your market.
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diarouga wrote:Bank=4v with both gold ups and you won''t up your market.
Dutch vills already have a 10% boost on gathering coin anyway. I''m pretty sure a bank is equal to 4 Dutch vills, or 4.5 regular vills.
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Actually i think its 15% (.69 vs .6) and yeah its 4 unupped dutch vills
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It might be 15%. I can't remember if it turned out to be 0.66 or 0.69 when I last tested it.
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mitoe wrote:
diarouga wrote:Bank=4v with both gold ups and you wont up your market.
Dutch vills already have a 10% boost on gathering coin anyway. Im pretty sure a bank is equal to 4 Dutch vills, or 4.5 regular vills.
True. Ive tested it on TAD and Nilla. A bank equals exactly 4 dutch vills on mine.

The boost only works for mines, not for plantation by the way.
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Banks don't cost population space.
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rikikipu wrote:
mitoe wrote:Dutch vills already have a 10% boost on gathering coin anyway. Im pretty sure a bank is equal to 4 Dutch vills, or 4.5 regular vills.
True. Ive tested it on TAD and Nilla. A bank equals exactly 4 dutch vills on mine.

The boost only works for mines, not for plantation by the way.
Right, thats what I meant. I almost never reach the point where I need a plantation with Dutch anyway so who cares XD
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And that @jerom is what the extra bank cards are useful for, to never have to invest into plantations. With only 6 banks I always am too short on coin, so better invest in cost inefficient banks than plantations.
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venox wrote:And that?@jerom is what the extra bank cards are useful for, to never have to invest into plantations. With only 6 banks I always am too short on coin, so better invest in cost inefficient banks than plantations.

Id rather get more army and claim a gold mine on the opponents side of the map with that.

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