How good are the best RE players?

[Imperial Noob]

There seem to be quite a few very high ranking RE players who I've never seen on ESOC. How good are they?

[Astaroth]

The really high ones are cheaters and point traders.

The very best RE players, who dont also (or only very rarely) play EP or are smurfs, are prolly around pr 33, maybe pr 35 max. Probably less than that actually.

[[Armag] diarouga]

Way worse than the top EP players.
Absoluvely is probably the best RE player atm, and he's 39th in the global 1v1 elo rating.

[Kaiserklein]

bad

[gibson]

A while ago(6 months to a year) when I did a bit of grinding on qs the only legitimately good player I ever met was Lukas. No body else was better than say pr30-32.

[Rohbrot]

Most of them are smurfs of ep top players like 55% i do not really know many re players that are lt colo i could count 3-4.The number nickname players play on ep as well,so i think the best re pr is atm lt colo and maybe 2-3 colonels

[Dolan]

The best have stopped playing a long time ago.

[[Armag] diarouga]

Most of them are smurfs of ep top players like 55% i do not really know many re players that are lt colo i could count 3-4.The number nickname players play on ep as well,so i think the best re pr is atm lt colo and maybe 2-3 colonels

Absoluvely is colonel ye. There are also some jap guys like Black_XII_T or piroshiki who are lt co.

[gibson]

Absolutely is pr 30 maybe

[Imperial Noob]

Wow. That's... pretty dead. All tigers are at the zoo.

[[Armag] diarouga]

The best have stopped playing a long time ago.

Pretty much. During the moesbar era, you either had to stop playing rated or play on the EP. At the pr30+ level, 1/3rd of your QS games would involve hacks at one point.
And today, the good QS player either switched to EP (Ownage for example), or stopped because they didn't want to switch (boneng, nagayumi, tombo_).

[_H2O]

All the best players are on EP. Pushing eachother to get better at the game. So the best RE only players are pretty bad. In the same way the vanilla players are even worse because they are further removed from high skilled play.

[[Armag] diarouga]

There's a 10 pr difference at high level between nilla and TAD now. It used to be 5 before EP.

[Kaiserklein]

Yeah when I switched to tad around 2015 I was roughly nilla brig and tad lt col, so the difference was roughly 5 PR (kinda even less as some PR loss was also due to not being familiar with new tad features). Nowadays the nilla "top players" are literally tad captains. Sad times

[gibson]

lol I just looked at the nilla ladder and didn't give it a super close look but basically every single account in the top 100 pr is a point trader/cheater

[Kaiserklein]

Wtf I checked nilla ladders. Holy shit, some dudes almost point traded 100 accounts with each other and that's the top 100. Really a solid use of their time

[Kaiserklein]

Damnit gibson is too fast, just like in game

[Dolan]

Pretty much. During the moesbar era, you either had to stop playing rated or play on the EP. At the pr30+ level, 1/3rd of your QS games would involve hacks at one point.
And today, the good QS player either switched to EP (Ownage for example), or stopped because they didn't want to switch (boneng, nagayumi, tombo_).

What a shame. I really enjoyed Boneng and Nagayumi's streams. Some of the most fun AOE3 content to watch.

[dansil92]

Piroshiki is the king of RE

[sebnan12]

id rate myself much better than absoluvely tbh even if he plays re 100% otto. so the fact that a major is better than the best re player considered by diarouga shud make this pretty clear

[gibson]

Yea mongo is absolutely better than absoluvely, even I have above a 50% win rate vs him and it would be much higher if you took out 1 second resigns, complete bullshit re mus, and terrible maps.

[Mr_Bramboy]

Anyone who plays 100% ottoman in QS is a corporal at best.

[Kaiserklein]

Yeah how is that dude the best RE player? Even with full otto laming on shitty qs maps he's like not even pr 30 skill wise. I remember bashing him with mercs and his mechanics were literally lieutenant level

[Astaroth]

Lol Absoluvely sucks. I beat him with a weak ass rush not having played aoe3 in 12 years and my mechanics are like pr 18 at this point

[[Armag] diarouga]

That's what elo says. He's 2350 elos.
If he's overrated, then the best RE player is Black_XIII_T with his 2320 elos.