Should we remove the score from the game ?

Should we remove the score from the game ?

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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

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Imperial Noob wrote:Meh. These things, i.e. scouting options of various civs in general. You conveniently picked the one thing that is the biggest exception, because it is both invisible and free.
Well I used one example you picked yourself. You basically implied harassing with the scout is more interesting than abusing it in stealth mode. So yeah I felt like that was enough for me to prove you wrong.

Anyway, half the things your mentioned are not worth getting, like the balloon or LOS cards. On the other hand, stealth is broken, really opposite of useless. I legit think training spies just for the stealth might be good in some situations.
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

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Lol removing ages is retarded, with some civs it's legit impossible to see what age they are until you see 2 falcs coming towards you.
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Talking about non necessary changes and then you come with this :dry:

I see the point of removing score but imo take it easy and don't change something have always been that way in all AOE games.
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Yep G spot on
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

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it's an aoe game. not starcraft.
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

Post by aaryngend »

In StarCraft, it was the other way around. People debated about removing parts of the UI for viewers (like unit count, production queue, etc.), so they don't just know who is most likely going to win and keep things interesting. The suggestion was aiming to keep the observed game more exciting and less predictable for the viewers.
Since StarCraft doesn't have a score system (only some graphs after the game), this grievance doesn't even exist.
As Garja said this is a pivotal feature of the age series, be careful about removing/changing it.
iNcog wrote:it's an aoe game. not starcraft.
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Post by n0el »

This is a non starter in my opinion. Score is a fundamental part of Age of Empires
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[Armag] diarouga wrote: There is no score in sc2 and people don't turk.
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Garja wrote: ā†‘
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

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Has there been and Age Series game without score? This seems a bit ridiculous to me.

And +1000 to what garja said..minimal changes xDDD
But tbh tbf ngl at this point were not worried about minimal changes obvi.
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yeah agreed. i still try to have minimal changes but that ship has sailed and got lost at davy jones locker arrrrrrrrrrrr
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

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To be fair... This would be so easily tested by turning the score off in options. Don't even need to modify the game to test this.
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Post by sapikles »

as a ex starcraft 2 progammer, i can tell you guys that removing everything ( scores, tps, even tresaures taken, ages), would make the game a more competitive but then we would start all over with all ins and it could become too good for civs with extra scout or fast wc ( franch, dutch, sioux, etc.)
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Kaiserklein wrote:Yeah scouting is often near impossible when your opponent has units, which is sad. Unless you have stealth units, which is another broken mechanic that shouldn't exist anyway.
Can spies unstealth other spies? It's way out there but IMO it would be cool if spies were cheap enough to be viable.
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Why is stealth broken? It makes perfect sense.
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

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princeofcarthage wrote:Why is stealth broken? It makes perfect sense.
I guess because it can give away game-winning information for free, and it's rather difficult to counter, especially for civs with just 1 slow explorer.
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

Post by howlingwolfpaw »

can you put the cloak on a timer? like 30sec-1min (more for jags they slow) with a recharge?

That way a scout could still go through someones base allowing it to still do its job, but in balance not sit there in a good spot giving all info away
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

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isn't stealth too weak in aoe3? in other games stealth units generally have bonus movement speed, and can deal mass damage with 1 hit. only in aoe3 do they have 50% speed only.
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

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ovi12 wrote:
Kaiserklein wrote:Yeah scouting is often near impossible when your opponent has units, which is sad. Unless you have stealth units, which is another broken mechanic that shouldn't exist anyway.
Can spies unstealth other spies? It's way out there but IMO it would be cool if spies were cheap enough to be viable.
They probably can, not sure. Tbh in some MUs spies are probably viable already
princeofcarthage wrote:Why is stealth broken? It makes perfect sense.
Because most civs don't have an easy way to get / spot stealth units. So the ones that do (typically france with the scout) can abuse it.
E.g finding a stealthed scout as iro is a pain because you can literally only find it with your warchief, and the warchief is busy fighting or building TPs. But meanwhile iro can also stealth their skirms which is extremely broken.
Not to mention you can literally go stealth while in LOS of your opponent. It's stupid
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Re: Should we remove the score from the game ?

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Also the stealth bug where you can go invisible next to enemy units.

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