Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
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Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
I test at scenairo editor
China cav age3 (Iron Flail +Meteor Hammer )vs every cav(other civ) = china cav age3 lose
Bad shipment for china
example China low price low cost but age 2 ship 9 qingpike 8 ckn or age3 ship 13 ckn 14 pike
but europe civ cross bow ship 8 but high price high cost than china but ship 8 cross bow and europe pike ship 8 pike age 3 = 12 pike
don't balance shipment europe pike low price low cost but china pike shipment 9 and 14
China cav age3 (Iron Flail +Meteor Hammer )vs every cav(other civ) = china cav age3 lose
Bad shipment for china
example China low price low cost but age 2 ship 9 qingpike 8 ckn or age3 ship 13 ckn 14 pike
but europe civ cross bow ship 8 but high price high cost than china but ship 8 cross bow and europe pike ship 8 pike age 3 = 12 pike
don't balance shipment europe pike low price low cost but china pike shipment 9 and 14
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Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
Not sure if you are trolling with these threads but... Chinas cav is not good in cav vs cav battles but has the advantage of meteor hammers having range meaning they attack from the back causing less pathing problems. Also meteors are so good vs artillery that it is pointless to make cannons vs china.
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China can''t anti cavalry ?britishmusketeer wrote:Not sure if you are trolling with these threads but... Chinas cav is not good in cav vs cav battles but has the advantage of meteor hammers having range meaning they attack from the back causing less pathing problems. Also meteors are so good vs artillery that it is pointless to make cannons vs china.
If shipment anti cavalry gone?
Need build ming amry? Keshik bad archer cav
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
China has the Manchu card. These are great anticav, making up for the less than optimal keshiks.chun wrote:China cant anti cavalry ?britishmusketeer wrote:Not sure if you are trolling with these threads but... Chinas cav is not good in cav vs cav battles but has the advantage of meteor hammers having range meaning they attack from the back causing less pathing problems. Also meteors are so good vs artillery that it is pointless to make cannons vs china.
If shipment anti cavalry gone?
Need build ming amry? Keshik bad archer cav
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You dont ever make keshik. China has anti cav in swords from skirm sword batch, recoats from consulate and cav to block if necessary. [span] [/span]chun wrote:China cant anti cavalry ?britishmusketeer wrote:Not sure if you are trolling with these threads but... Chinas cav is not good in cav vs cav battles but has the advantage of meteor hammers having range meaning they attack from the back causing less pathing problems. Also meteors are so good vs artillery that it is pointless to make cannons vs china.
If shipment anti cavalry gone?
Need build ming amry? Keshik bad archer cav
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IF use 11 changdao 14 pike use manchu can't win anti cavalry ?
understand?
I know china have changddao card pike card manchu card musk card but it can use 1 time ok
if game play 30+ min ? no card for shipment
understand?
understand?
I know china have changddao card pike card manchu card musk card but it can use 1 time ok
if game play 30+ min ? no card for shipment
understand?
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
changdao are just fine, even in 30+min games.
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yes but changdo3+aq3 butgarja wrote:changdao are just fine, even in 30+min games.
they counter by cav+ski ex. germane and France are strongest cav u can win?
I want pure anti cav?
Keshik?? in bad but in history . every civ lose Keshik . lol
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I understand. Even in a 30+ min game the territorial army gives you 3 swords per batch and you still get periodic musks from consulate (faster due to more vills) and cav to block... Also you can just go age 4 in a long game and get old han reforms which is unbeatable.chun wrote:IF use 11 changdao 14 pike use manchu can''t win anti cavalry ?
understand?
I know china have changddao card pike card manchu card musk card but it can use 1 time ok
if game play 30+ min ? no card for shipment
understand?
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
Whos gonna stay in age 3 after 30 min nigga, we just appreciating age 4 op old han mass
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yes i understand but I hate cav kill viilage.britishmusketeer wrote:I understand. Even in a 30+ min game the territorial army gives you 3 swords per batch and you still get periodic musks from consulate (faster due to more vills) and cav to block... Also you can just go age 4 in a long game and get old han reforms which is unbeatable.chun wrote:IF use 11 changdao 14 pike use manchu cant win anti cavalry ?
understand?
I know china have changddao card pike card manchu card musk card but it can use 1 time ok
if game play 30+ min ? no card for shipment
understand?
wtf cant pure anti cav? changdao and pike are hi run 5 but cav run 6.5+
so It need best archer cav? I know have manchu but use 1 time
Keshik useless
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
u just need to control the map, which is not that hard as china tends to have always more units than other civs
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
Meteor Hammers are good, Iron Flails are bad. That pretty much sums things up.
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
chun wrote:IF use 11 changdao 14 pike use manchu can''t win anti cavalry ?
understand?
I know china have changddao card pike card manchu card musk card but it can use 1 time ok
if game play 30+ min ? no card for shipment
understand?
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Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
??zoom wrote:Meteor Hammers are good, Iron Flails are bad. That pretty much sums things up.
Why iron flail sucks even with 1 radius damage? Imo it would do its better than meteors vs skirm-types
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Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
Zoi has a grudge with flails. He seems to not understand that 350hp, 30%rr and 22*1.5 area1 are excellent stats for a 2pop unit in fotress.
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
Exactly.garja wrote:Zoi has a grudge with flails. He seems to not understand that 350hp, 30%rr and 22*1.5 area1 are excellent stats for a 2pop unit in fotress.
What''s a zoi tho?
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yes. sure but for china ffgarja wrote:u just need to control the map, which is not that hard as china tends to have always more units than other civs
other civ semi ff can control map before china will age3
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
as long as china have decent starting resources they can win anyway. Their ff mass is generally too much for euro semis. Maybe Germans can win but then again German semi is ridiculously good.
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
I tested this recently, I think it was 25 vet huss no other upgrades vs an equivalent ammount of forbidden army, and the china cav always won wit like 4-5 cav left over iirc
last time i cryed was because i stood on Lego
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
Zo?garja wrote:Zoi has a grudge with flails. He seems to not understand that 350hp, 30%rr and 22*1.5 area1 are excellent stats for a 2pop unit in fotress.
Worst in the entire game corresponds to excellent for you?
Hussar:
Hitpoints: 320 (400 ranged)' hitpoints per cost: 1.6 (2 ranged)
Attack: 30' attack per cost: 0.15
Speed: 6.75
Availability: Colonial Age (does not auto-upgrade)
Iron Flail:
Hitpoints: 292 (~417 ranged)' hitpoints per cost: ~1.2167 (1.7375 ranged)
Attack: 19 (1 splash radius' 28.5 vs ranged infantry)' attack per cost: ~0.07916 (0.11875 vs ranged infantry)
Speed: 6.5
Availability: Fortress Age (does auto-upgrade)
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
No that was against Disciplined Naginata Riders. Also with British Consulate' Hussars won slightly, which is surprising considering how much worse IF are. 6 range is just really good...ovi12 wrote:I tested this recently, I think it was 25 vet huss no other upgrades vs an equivalent ammount of forbidden army, and the china cav always won wit like 4-5 cav left over iirc
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
No, that was huss. The huss lost.zoom wrote:No that was against Disciplined Naginata Riders. Also with British Consulate' Hussars won slightly, which is surprising considering how much worse IF are. 6 range is just really good...ovi12 wrote:I tested this recently, I think it was 25 vet huss no other upgrades vs an equivalent ammount of forbidden army, and the china cav always won wit like 4-5 cav left over iirc
last time i cryed was because i stood on Lego
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
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Your language skills are sick as well.
Other players say cavalry china age3 good? badshipmentblance
Meteor hammers are awesome though. Cav stats are fucking insane, but they have so much pathing issues that there attack is really half of what it would be if they were a ranged unit. Maybe more like 10%. Meteor hammers have almost no pathing issues, especially in conjunction with melee cav. I think when comparing meteor hammers to hussars, you should just double their attack to actually match reality. And iron flails effectively have less pathing issues than huss too, due to the presence of meteor hammers, so in practice they probably suffer much less from pathing issues than hussars do.
Thats probably the biggest thing about chinese cav. Thats why they always seem to perform much better than they should according to their stats.
Thats probably the biggest thing about chinese cav. Thats why they always seem to perform much better than they should according to their stats.
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