Which Mercenaries Are Best/Most Useful

highlander
7
6%
manchu
11
9%
fusilier
4
3%
ninja
0
No votes
hackpapells
3
2%
jaeger
20
16%
mameluke
39
32%
landsknecht
0
No votes
swiss pikemen
7
6%
Li'l Bombards
4
3%
stradiot
0
No votes
elmeti
11
9%
ronin
5
4%
black rider
12
10%
 
Total votes: 123

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Finland breeze
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05 Sep 2015, 05:52

Hey!
i tried to post most of the mercenaries in the poll option.. do you think which is best? and why?
i think elmeti/mamelukes are most useful ones here. since they have pretty high hp which is really good
and jaegers.. which is best skirm..
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05 Sep 2015, 05:55

Here I'm assuming you're talking about mercenaries to be made out of saloon/monastery.

Jaegars. Most cost effective mercenary imo.

Also, swiss pikes are just very very good. Mongo won vs Sam in china vs french MU using jaegers spam and swiss pikes.

If it has to be a mercenary card, probably black riders/mamelukes/Highlanders are best. Highlanders are game winning card for Spain.
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05 Sep 2015, 05:58

here. i talk about both card and saloon/monastery i mean as a unit which is best/most useful
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05 Sep 2015, 06:15

breeze wrote:here. i talk about both card and saloon/monastery i mean as a unit which is best/most useful
Not all civs get all mercenaries shipment.

Ignoring this fact, Swiss pikes and Jaegers imo the the best. Swiss pikes more cost effective than black riders. Black riders are best to ship, not to make. Swiss and Jaegers are best to make and best to ship.

My logic about swiss pikemen being stronger than black riders in terms of cost effectiveness maybe wrong. But I''ve saw swiss pikeman often game changing when used against myself.
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05 Sep 2015, 06:47

Swiss pikemen - 3 pikemen for cost of 2.

Little bombards - they counter all units and have 4 sec reload which is op for cannons.

Mamelukes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z9tclncJNc

Elmeti - they live where Garja and Marco1698 live, they can't be bad.
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05 Sep 2015, 07:18

Elmeti with Brit consulate saved my ass when I aged up against japan age 2 ashi yumi cbow daimyo mass. Urumi shipment and 3 mahouts shipment helped too :)
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05 Sep 2015, 08:11

Ronin if popped right in an army.
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05 Sep 2015, 09:00

Mamelouk is the mercenary with the most impact and probably most usefull if otto aren't ban from tournament.
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05 Sep 2015, 09:29

I love black riders but mams are the most useful. But it's not correct to say they are on every situation. Depends from situation, for example sometimes you need black riders sometimes Swiss pikeman sometimes ronin ecc. Almost of the cases ye mams better
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05 Sep 2015, 09:33

Oh one time I had like 45 crossbowman and I wasted all of them vs hackapells. They have not got same mams hp but their attack is 121 if I am not wrong and it is op
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05 Sep 2015, 09:58

Isn't op becouse hp for cav is most important (for tanking).
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05 Sep 2015, 10:26

marco1698 wrote:Oh one time I had like 45 crossbowman and I wasted all of them vs hackapells. They have not got same mams hp but their attack is 121 if I am not wrong and it is op
Hakapells OP confirmed.
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05 Sep 2015, 12:40

I only play treaty, so mercenaries are usually too weak (compared to imperial) units to be of much use. However, there are exceptions.

If a civilization doesn't have a unit and the mercenaries can provide it, they are sometimes worth considering. For instance, Fusiliers, being very fast musketeers, are really good to include in a German push as with Germany you don't get musketeers. Occasionally I will make a few Elmeti with Ports if faced, say, with massed Brit longbows because Port Hussars are on the weak side. I once made ten Ronin as Otts playing versus France and when I wiped out a Gendarme spam my opponent didn't make another one all game.

For the most part, mercs take up too much pop space. However, with Spain their amazing unctioned attack makes up for it. Highlanders and Hackapels, especially, have enormous attack with Spain.
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05 Sep 2015, 12:48

metis wrote:I only play treaty, so mercenaries are usually too weak (compared to imperial) units to be of much use. However, there are exceptions.

If a civilization doesn''t have a unit and the mercenaries can provide it, they are sometimes worth considering. For instance, Fusiliers, being very fast musketeers, are really good to include in a German push as with Germany you don''t get musketeers. Occasionally I will make a few Elmeti with Ports if faced, say, with massed Brit longbows because Port Hussars are on the weak side. I once made ten Ronin as Otts playing versus France and when I wiped out a Gendarme spam my opponent didn''t make another one all game.

For the most part, mercs take up too much pop space. However, with Spain their amazing unctioned attack makes up for it. Highlanders and Hackapels, especially, have enormous attack with Spain.
There is no single mercenary that is worth using in treaty. They are bad in age 4 already except for the best, let alone in age.
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05 Sep 2015, 14:05

Mams are the best, otherwise jaegers are good and black rider mostly for germans (only goon available). Swiss pikes are handy to raid a tc and so but in fight i fail to see why they would be good, because pike-type units suck in age 3 vs skirm goon cav compositions. They also suck vs musks
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05 Sep 2015, 17:51

Learicorns for sure
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21 Sep 2018, 18:20

Lil Bombards who doesn't love them
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21 Sep 2018, 18:28

where is garja
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21 Sep 2018, 18:31

Aykin Haraka wrote:where is garja

This thread is about Mercs, not Gods.

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