Best FF in TAD

[Kaiserklein]

If you ff for opris with a hidden stable, you might just trade tcs, but you got opris which means rip spanish vils, while you might be able to save yours. But well he still has more mass and he might have mm + rods to kill your opris and a tower to hide vils after tc is down so idk

[Jaeger]

Cuz after the cannons trade evenly it dies to the rest of the spanish army. Also spain might also win mid-late fortress just based on composition, not sure. Russia just dies early usually tho.

i dont think pike rod should beat musk strelet cav archer.

Thats why you dont piro ff. We can try me spain you russia ff if you want

[[Armag] diarouga]

Halb are terrible lol.
@ovi you don't do piro ff but if he goes ff, you'll have a much much better eco (like 10 more vills+market).

[Jaeger]

Halb are terrible lol.
@ovi you don''t do piro ff but if he goes ff, you''ll have a much much better eco (like 10 more vills+market).

Yeah that''s what I''m tying to say, spain ff rapes russia ff. You will have enough skirms and rods because of your eco and with the cav shipments you just rek him.

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It could work vs someone who makes only skirms if you like hide them and pretend you ff, but especially vs russia I make only 5-10 skirms and then only rods and only later some skirms and some lancers

I saw zoi beat you with it btw ')

Zoi beats everyone from Ovi to H2O by massing a single unit and just ramming it in there...

[adderbrain5]

well i nominate iroquois, national unity OP 250 gold merc shipments not to mention 5 cuir. second travois ships to forward hut etc. spam FP ftw with whatever extra res u have and option to use BB for 10 tomo if he goes cav

[gibson]

well i nominate iroquois, national unity OP 250 gold merc shipments not to mention 5 cuir. second travois ships to forward hut etc. spam FP ftw with whatever extra res u have and option to use BB for 10 tomo if he goes cav

dats our gold medalist

[princeofkabul]

All hail the gold medalist!

[momuuu]

Iro might legitemately have the best FF though.

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Why ridicule Added Brain the single time he makes a meaningful contribution?

SMH...

[Papist]

Iro FF is pretty OP lol' I have found it is a great way to catch your opponent off-guard. Most players are used to rushes and are very vulnerable to prowler/musk rider/cuir in their base at 10 minutes.

[adderbrain5]

Iro FF is pretty OP lol' I have found it is a great way to catch your opponent off-guard. Most players are used to rushes and are very vulnerable to prowler/musk rider/cuir in their base at 10 minutes.

yeah that''s another thing no one EVER seems to expect it and cuir fp annhilate colonial masses

[adderbrain5]

Well I'm actually not the current gold medalist anymore there's a new one and I make a lot of contributions and I maintain that I would have a much higher PR than most people on this forum if I played/cared enough

So what's with all the haters maybe they're just having fun making fun of someone but honestly I think that they're upset that they will never have what I have which is a lasting achievement of AOE three a metal which will never go away unlike their high PR which will decay

[Garja]

Iro (semi) FF is pretty common. Just their colonial is a more direct way to win and you don't see much iro in the first place nowadays.

[edeholland]

which is a lasting achievement of AOE three a metal which will never go away unlike their high PR which will decay

That only makes it less reliable.

[gibson]

Iro might legitemately have the best FF though.

I think otto is still slightly better, but even if Iro is the best is not because they ship national unity and then the merc shipments.....

[gibson]

Why ridicule Added Brain the single time he makes a meaningful contribution?

SMH...

u right coach

[adderbrain5]

Iro (semi) FF is pretty common. Just their colonial is a more direct way to win and you don''t see much iro in the first place nowadays.

i''m talking about straight FF which only really works with an extra gold crate or lots of gold treasures but no semi

[Garja]

Straight ff works just fine on any map rerally.

Also iro ff > otto ff, but china ff is better than both

[momuuu]

Im not sure if I agree that China FF is better. It excels in some areas and doesn't in some others.

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Chinese FF loses miserably to both of Iroquois and Ottomans FF.

[Garja]

chinese ff beats both of those, that's why iro and otto don't ff vs china

[_DB_]

Exactly. Otto won't win vs a good china unless they Jan Rush.

I've saw rec of Iro vs China from PK, Fard vs shmras. Fard lost to shmras for doing an Iro FF vs China.

[momuuu]

But how much is the question which FF beats which? To me the question is which FF would have the highest winrate over the 14 match ups.

[Method_man714]

china ff definitely beats otto ff

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