Thoughts on this Card?

chiefmaster · Post by **chiefmaster** » 18 Oct 2015, 04:54

What are everyone's thoughts on the Advanced Scouts card?

Advanced Scouts
-This Card can be sent in Age 2
-Scouts can now be trained from your Town Center and their combat ability is enhanced.
-This Card may be sent ONE time
-Native Scout: Changes All Actions Damage by 200.00%
-Native Scout: Changes Hitpoints by 50.00%
-Native Scout enabled

I was thinking of using this has some form of rush tactic with settlers and maybe minute men tomorrow when i have time but i would like opinions on it, Would it work? Is it at all useful? Since it is an Age 2 Card i feel as it wouldn't be good at all but it's mainly for fun and trying out new things/ways to win.

_DB_ · Post by **_DB_** » 18 Oct 2015, 05:11

You'll win 100% of games if you do scout rush players below pr 20.

If your enemy knows how to play, it's shit.

yemshi · Post by **yemshi** » 18 Oct 2015, 06:22

If I was optimistic I would say that these guys are sijple coyotes or similar.
The facct that they cost only wood and a shipment makes them be so bad. This card is available for Native civs only, so you have better options.
This is Aizamk.
http://www.twitch.tv/aiz11/c/6293211

forgrin · Post by **forgrin** » 18 Oct 2015, 06:54

It wouldn't be that horrid if they didn't cost 90w each to build. The problem is this would be crushed by 6musk + MM + TC so hard. You could probably cheese a corporal with it.

Marco1698 · Post by **Marco1698** » 18 Oct 2015, 07:09

Useless

DerMaxinator · Post by **DerMaxinator** » 18 Oct 2015, 07:52

I think i recall Aizamk scout rushing in one of his streams. It was pretty funny, but the siege is completely useless. I think its only good when you want to troll once in a while

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 18 Oct 2015, 13:43

Sending an age 2 card that doesn't directly do anything is not worth it. Hell, cards that don't directly give you something aren't worth it in sup anyways.

Wuangaga · Post by **Wuangaga** » 18 Oct 2015, 14:20

yemshi wrote:If I was optimistic I would say that these guys are sijple coyotes or similar.
The facct that they cost only wood and a shipment makes them be so bad. This card is available for Native civs only, so you have better options.
This is Aizamk.
http://www.twitch.tv/aiz11/c/6293211

That''s kind of the only way to make this card useful, a shame that it only works in FFA because you need so much time to set it up.

Papist · Post by **Papist** » 18 Oct 2015, 14:48

That's a troll card, right up there with the Spanish 9 holcan rush.

Kaiserklein · Post by **Kaiserklein** » 18 Oct 2015, 15:32

Actually 15 attack 180 hp 5.5 speed is pretty OP, and the most OP thing is they have no counter (I dont think they are tagged as anything). Plus they can go in stealth mode. For all of this, 90 wood isnt even that expansive. The problem is you have to waste a card for those, plus they are trained from tc. If this card also gave let's say 3 of those scouts, it could be almost viable

yemshi · Post by **yemshi** » 18 Oct 2015, 15:33

You can build them at a native embassy,

Mr_Bramboy · Post by **Mr_Bramboy** » 18 Oct 2015, 15:59

10/10 card' my entire family recommends this card purely because of its beauty and because of its repression in the current TP meta.

Wuangaga · Post by **Wuangaga** » 18 Oct 2015, 17:24

kaiserklein wrote:Actually 15 attack 180 hp 5.5 speed is pretty OP, and the most OP thing is they have no counter (I dont think they are tagged as anything). Plus they can go in stealth mode. For all of this, 90 wood isnt even that expansive. The problem is you have to waste a card for those, plus they are trained from tc. If this card also gave let''s say 3 of those scouts, it could be almost viable

You could make a whole deck around this card and buff them really hard, just watch the VOD that yemshi posted, the scouts actually have a lot of potential.

Papist · Post by **Papist** » 19 Oct 2015, 01:32

Advanced scouts is the native version of the Russian priests strategy. The TWC civs don't need it though - their standard play is good enough that there is no need to jeopardize their chances with a troll strat. Those scouts might have decent stats, but why would you give up on any sort of early pressure to make them?

Good ol Ivan · Post by **Good ol Ivan** » 19 Oct 2015, 03:17

Wasn't this card nerfed at some point because native scouts were actually too OP?
lol

Post by **_H2O** » 19 Oct 2015, 03:48

good troll strat card imo

Einfein · Post by **Einfein** » 21 Oct 2015, 06:06

Pro: This card can be used to smash the expert comp into oblivion. It just doesn't seem to know how to deal with mass scouts.

Con: It will not work verse players who have been playing for a while.

Question: What wins between a Dutch pure envoy spam and a native scout spam?

yemshi · Post by **yemshi** » 21 Oct 2015, 06:13

Native scout. You can only make 5 Envoys.

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