AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

No Flag anonymous123
Dragoon
Posts: 286
Joined: Jul 27, 2015

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by anonymous123 »

kaiserklein wrote:
anonymous123 wrote:Are you dumb? Doesnt light infantry include "infantry". I did say Musk get heavy infantry tag which skirms dont get which results in musk getting bonus vs cav.
You still didnt say why you compare skirms to erk, to me this simply means you dont understand the game

Sure there is the word "infantry" in "light infantry", you did spot that. Still being light infantry has nothing to do with the "infantry" tag ("normal" infantry if you prefer), since light infantry is the equivalent of cav
Please quote where I compared erk to skirms, because I didnt. And I already said light infantry is equivalent to cavalry why are you repeating same things? The discussion was about weather skirms is a light infantry or not and it is not. I mentioned ERK because someone said lancers dont get bonus vs them so they are not infantry or something similar to which I clarified the difference between Light infantry and Infantry tag.
France Kaiserklein
Pro Player
Posts: 10278
Joined: Jun 6, 2015
Location: Paris
GameRanger ID: 5529322

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by Kaiserklein »

anonymous123 wrote:
kaiserklein wrote:No, thats why its tricky. Lancers and falcs have a multiplier against infantry, so if coyote runners and erk were tagged as infantry (cause they walk obviously) they would die to those. Would be pretty absurd for the equivalents of melee cav and goon to die to lancers and falcs... Thats why they are not tagged as infantry, just as light infantry

Btw ranged infantry usually means skirm/bow units, lets say "anti-infantry infantry". Of course musks do have a range, but they arent the same as skirms.[span style="font-size:12pt'"] [/span]
They do, But erk get 3x multiplier against cav thats why they do better than skirms. Ranged infantry is any infantry that fires from range. that includes all skirm/muskarchers/mace etc. Musk get heavy infantry tag because they get multplier. against cav. Lancer gets 3x/4x with card bonus against any unit that gets "infantry" tag doesnt matter if its musk/skirm. They are infantry equivalent to cav/goons, They are NOT cav/goons, Also the reason Lancer dont get bonus against ERK is because ERK dont get "infantry tag" It just has light infantry and ranged infantry tag.
This is usually called a comparison. I can give you a definition if you ask politely

Anyway, the discussion I had originally with you was about what you said, "Anything that walks is classified as Infantry", which is false, not about "whether skirms is a light infantry or not".
Image
Image
Image
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Norway tibia
Musketeer
Posts: 98
Joined: Feb 27, 2015
ESO: Tibia
Location: Norway

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by tibia »

zoom wrote:
tibia wrote:Rattan shield is also Ligth inf, the only thing that realy beats fully upgraded rattans are lancers....
Is that supposed to be in reply to my post? Oh boy, youre in for a revelation...

Rattan Shields are light infantry, but thats completely and utterly irrelevant to my point' they are hard-countered by Dragoons just like Disciples are ?? unlike Tiger Claws.

Oh, by the way: Lancers do no bonus damage to Rattan Shields at all.
Then go back to eso and try agian, goons suck vs rattan sheild , lancer owns them rattan doesnt have the abstract cav thing so they count only as inf, ligth that is..
No Flag anonymous123
Dragoon
Posts: 286
Joined: Jul 27, 2015

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by anonymous123 »

kaiserklein wrote:
anonymous123 wrote:They do, But erk get 3x multiplier against cav thats why they do better than skirms. Ranged infantry is any infantry that fires from range. that includes all skirm/muskarchers/mace etc. Musk get heavy infantry tag because they get multplier. against cav. Lancer gets 3x/4x with card bonus against any unit that gets "infantry" tag doesnt matter if its musk/skirm. They are infantry equivalent to cav/goons, They are NOT cav/goons, Also the reason Lancer dont get bonus against ERK is because ERK dont get "infantry tag" It just has light infantry and ranged infantry tag.
This is usually called a comparison. I can give you a definition if you ask politely

Anyway, the discussion I had originally with you was about what you said, "Anything that walks is classified as Infantry", which is false, not about "whether skirms is a light infantry or not"
How it is false. Definition :The infantry is the branch of a military force that fights on foot. Like I said you are failing to understand how tag systems work in aoe 3.



Do you even read once what you are writing, because you are making yourself look pretty stupid.
User avatar
New Zealand zoom
Gendarme
Posts: 9314
Joined: Apr 26, 2015
ESO: Funnu
Location: New_Sweland

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by zoom »

tibia wrote:
zoom wrote:Is that supposed to be in reply to my post? Oh boy, youre in for a revelation...

Rattan Shields are light infantry, but thats completely and utterly irrelevant to my point' they are hard-countered by Dragoons just like Disciples are ?? unlike Tiger Claws.

Oh, by the way: Lancers do no bonus damage to Rattan Shields at all.
Then go back to eso and try agian, goons suck vs rattan sheild , lancer owns them rattan doesnt have the abstract cav thing so they count only as inf, ligth that is..
Oh my... please dont do this. Trust me. Just test both these things yourself and accept that youre terribly mistaken: Dragoons do as much damage to Rattan Shields as they do to Coyote Runners, and Lancers do absolutely no bonus damage to Rattan Shields.
France Kaiserklein
Pro Player
Posts: 10278
Joined: Jun 6, 2015
Location: Paris
GameRanger ID: 5529322

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by Kaiserklein »

anonymous123 wrote:
kaiserklein wrote:This is usually called a comparison. I can give you a definition if you ask politely

Anyway, the discussion I had originally with you was about what you said, "Anything that walks is classified as Infantry", which is false, not about "whether skirms is a light infantry or not"
How it is false. Definition :The infantry is the branch of a military force that fights on foot. Like I said you are failing to understand how tag systems work in aoe 3.



Do you even read once what you are writing, because you are making yourself look pretty stupid.
So if you dont answer to what I said, I guess you admit you compared erk and skirms, which means you didnt understand how the game works ? Thats a good first step

Who cares about the official definition of "infantry", we are talking about aoe man... And in aoe3, light infantry isnt infantry, even if it looks weird, but im failing to make you understand that obviously
Image
Image
Image
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
No Flag anonymous123
Dragoon
Posts: 286
Joined: Jul 27, 2015

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by anonymous123 »

kaiserklein wrote:
anonymous123 wrote: How it is false. Definition :The infantry is the branch of a military force that fights on foot. Like I said you are failing to understand how tag systems work in aoe 3.



Do you even read once what you are writing, because you are making yourself look pretty stupid.
So if you dont answer to what I said, I guess you admit you compared erk and skirms, which means you didnt understand how the game works ? Thats a good first step

Who cares about the official definition of "infantry", we are talking about aoe man... And in aoe3, light infantry isnt infantry, even if it looks weird, but im failing to make you understand that obviously
Well i didnt compare, its something like situational comparison where you see how 2 things work out against a single thing but you arent comparing 2 things directly. If its not infantry and not cav what it is then?
France Kaiserklein
Pro Player
Posts: 10278
Joined: Jun 6, 2015
Location: Paris
GameRanger ID: 5529322

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by Kaiserklein »

anonymous123 wrote:
kaiserklein wrote:So if you dont answer to what I said, I guess you admit you compared erk and skirms, which means you didnt understand how the game works ? Thats a good first step

Who cares about the official definition of "infantry", we are talking about aoe man... And in aoe3, light infantry isnt infantry, even if it looks weird, but im failing to make you understand that obviously
Well i didnt compare, its something like situational comparison where you see how 2 things work out against a single thing but you arent comparing 2 things directly. If its not infantry and not cav what it is then?
Its light infantry
Image
Image
Image
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Norway tibia
Musketeer
Posts: 98
Joined: Feb 27, 2015
ESO: Tibia
Location: Norway

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by tibia »

zoom wrote:
tibia wrote:Then go back to eso and try agian, goons suck vs rattan sheild , lancer owns them rattan doesnt have the abstract cav thing so they count only as inf, ligth that is..
Oh my... please dont do this. Trust me. Just test both these things yourself and accept that youre terribly mistaken: Dragoons do as much damage to Rattan Shields as they do to Coyote Runners, and Lancers do absolutely no bonus damage to Rattan Shields.
i just testet and i found out you are wrong. The makers of this game forgot to put rattan shield as abstract cavalry, i played alot of teamgames where rattan just rapes all since goon only does normal attack vs them..... SO PLEASE go test yourselfe. ( im not 100% about lancer bonus tbh , but the goon has no bonus vs rattan shield )
User avatar
New Zealand zoom
Gendarme
Posts: 9314
Joined: Apr 26, 2015
ESO: Funnu
Location: New_Sweland

AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by zoom »

tibia wrote:
zoom wrote:Oh my... please dont do this. Trust me. Just test both these things yourself and accept that youre terribly mistaken: Dragoons do as much damage to Rattan Shields as they do to Coyote Runners, and Lancers do absolutely no bonus damage to Rattan Shields.
i just testet and i found out you are wrong. The makers of this game forgot to put rattan shield as abstract cavalry, i played alot of teamgames where rattan just rapes all since goon only does normal attack vs them..... SO PLEASE go test yourselfe. ( im not 100% about lancer bonus tbh , but the goon has no bonus vs rattan shield )
I just want to let you know how terribly mistaken I am about the Rattan Shield coyoteman tag, which is indeed absent. Neither Dragoons nor Lancers do bonus damage to Rattan Shields and just as is the case with Tiger Claws, the unit is only actually countered by heavy infantry in melee.
User avatar
India TNT333
Lancer
Posts: 530
Joined: Sep 13, 2018
ESO: TNT333

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by TNT333 »

Sioux rifle riders can easily shred frances cavalry
"We are kings or pawns" Napoleon Bonaparte
User avatar
Sweden Gendarme
Gendarme
Donator 03
Posts: 5132
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
ESO: Gendarme

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by Gendarme »

Good thing France has dragoons
Pay more attention to detail.
User avatar
India TNT333
Lancer
Posts: 530
Joined: Sep 13, 2018
ESO: TNT333

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by TNT333 »

Then sioux get more rifle riders
"We are kings or pawns" Napoleon Bonaparte
Netherlands momuuu
Ninja
Posts: 14237
Joined: Jun 7, 2015
ESO: Jerom_

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by momuuu »

TNT333 wrote:Then sioux get more rifle riders

Rifle riders have the hand cavalry tag and thus are countered by ranged cavalry!
User avatar
Sweden Gendarme
Gendarme
Donator 03
Posts: 5132
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
ESO: Gendarme

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by Gendarme »

Yeah, and completely outranged too.
Pay more attention to detail.
User avatar
Sweden Gendarme
Gendarme
Donator 03
Posts: 5132
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
ESO: Gendarme

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by Gendarme »

edeholland wrote:[img alt="Chart " src="http://i.imgur.com/GvlmCkg.png[/img]

This goes well with my autism.
BBCode isn't HTML, silly Eddie.
Pay more attention to detail.
User avatar
Netherlands edeholland
ESOC Community Team
Donator 01
Posts: 5033
Joined: Feb 11, 2015
ESO: edeholland
GameRanger ID: 4053888
Clan: ESOC

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by edeholland »

Gendarme wrote:
edeholland wrote:[img alt="Chart " src="http://i.imgur.com/GvlmCkg.png[/img]

This goes well with my autism.
BBCode isn't HTML, silly Eddie.

It was at proboards :(
User avatar
France Aykin Haraka
Howdah
EWT
Posts: 1016
Joined: Jul 27, 2016
ESO: aykin

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by Aykin Haraka »

you upped a 3 years old thread
User avatar
Poland pecelot
Retired Contributor
Donator 03
Posts: 10459
Joined: Mar 25, 2015
ESO: Pezet

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by pecelot »

don't bump old, bad threads :ear:
User avatar
Sweden Gendarme
Gendarme
Donator 03
Posts: 5132
Joined: Sep 11, 2016
ESO: Gendarme

Re: AoE3 Tier List (UPDATED APRIL 3)

Post by Gendarme »

Aykin Haraka wrote:you upped a 3 years old thread
You would have a point if the information in this thread was outdated. EP EleGiggle
Pay more attention to detail.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests

Which top 10 players do you wish to see listed?

All-time

Active last two weeks

Active last month

Supremacy

Treaty

Official

ESOC Patch

Treaty Patch

1v1 Elo

2v2 Elo

3v3 Elo

Power Rating

Which streams do you wish to see listed?

Twitch

Age of Empires III

Age of Empires IV