Beating the expert AI with 100% handicap, is it possible?

[winjhergs]

You have probably seen this video by Interjection where he tries to beat the expert AI (100% HC) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiAWt5XsNxM
But, fails.
So I was wondering if anyone in here have actually managed to beat the 100% expert AI in a 1v1? If anyone would like to try, we need some rules.
1. Map can't contain water. The AI sucks at water maps/or maps with islands. You can easily just make a second base on an island and the AI will never be able to take you.
2. No walls! I have seen videos on YouTube where they use the walls in a certain way to "bug" out the AI
3. Any similar methods of using an AI weakens in your favor

It seems impossible, but maybe if you do some good early raiding you can mess up the AI's economy or something?

[_DB_]

Piro halb ff beats them imo

[NekoBerk]

And i gonna record it with fraps and upload it on youtube if i beat the pc.

[Mr_Bramboy]

Only works with walls and/or water. Inter uploaded a video of aklak doing it with a lot of walls.

[yurashic]

The only way to win 100% HC AI without water and walls is to come with your explorer to his base in age 1 and shoot vills so that they hide into the town center. There is no way to win with normal strategies because they just outspam you with cannons.

[NekoBerk]

The only way to win 100% HC AI without water and walls is to come with your explorer to his base in age 1 and shoot vills so that they hide into the town center. There is no way to win with normal strategies because they just outspam you with cannons.

or make a villager rush with frenchs

[Panmaster]

The "expert" AI is awful. It tries to hunt shrined animals and shoots animals away from it's town.

Install the NuggetFung AI. http://aoe3.heavengames.com/downloads/s ... ileid=3694

[adderbrain5]

iroquois explorer BB rush or aztec no villager BB with zapotecs and pumas also can beat it. But that is pretty much just bugging out the AI too and unfair. They will never focus fire your explorer like a real player would

[Darwin_]

I've beaten 100% handicapped AI on TAD with a all-in iro tomahawk rush. If you just age up absurdly quickly, get th big button tomas and destroy the town center as quickly as possible than massacre their villagers the AI has nothing to do. I was against british, if that means anything.

[iCourt]

Iro BB rush and then abuse the Town Destroyer card. You can also abuse wall segments and you can also kite the AI's entire army with a tiny amount of dragoons and then just push their base with a good amount of siege units.

[medinos]

The "expert" AI is awful. It tries to hunt shrined animals and shoots animals away from it's town.

Install the NuggetFung AI. http://aoe3.heavengames.com/downloads/s ... ileid=3694

this legit ? how strong are those AI they stronger I guess ?

[adderbrain5]

I've beaten 100% handicapped AI on TAD with a all-in iro tomahawk rush. If you just age up absurdly quickly, get th big button tomas and destroy the town center as quickly as possible than massacre their villagers the AI has nothing to do. I was against british, if that means anything.

this works against less experienced players too XD

and even the occasional good one with his guard down lol

[Dolan]

Yes. Otto jan abus early age 2 pressure. Don't build TP, save the wood for 2 military buildings, ship units, then coin. You need a small group of units to constantly go in and out of the AI's base and shoot one vill, get out, shoot a vill, get out. Etc. You need to age up as fast as possible, build artillery foundry, ship 5 jans, go immediately in its base and shoot. Try it on GP or a map with short rushing distance.

Iro might be able to do this even better, haven't tried.

[momuuu]

I wonder if its possible without rushing/abusing the AI.

[iCourt]

Maybe a Japan FI? Shrines would act like the wall segments you place everywhere.... Then just mass age 4 ashi and push into base?

[momuuu]

Japan FI surely is one of the better ways to beat expert AI, its at least the way I managed to beat 3 expert AIs. Ashi/yumi + flaming arrows is an amazing combo vs expert AIs since they wont counter your arrows with culvs while they keep making useless falcs that you counter. I wonder if its enough to beat expert AI though.

[Einfein]

I can't even imagine beating the AI on 100% HC without laming it. The best I've ever done was beating 4 expert AI's without walling, but the map had water on both sides (no islands) so I did a lot of fishing and sailed my vills up and down the coast to keep them safe. It took me 3 hours to win (yes I know I'm bad whatever). 100% HC AI just seems like suicide.

[silky]

I did this 3 v 5 on Large Deccan once but with lots of pillaring and then spammed gendarmes. I think I had to abuse fur trade and then bought food at market cheap. It's pretty hard when all comps are in age V at 17 minutes or whatever it was.

[momuuu]

It didnt attack me at all for some reason. Made it quite easy haha.

[[Armag] diarouga]

With kynesie and Tit we won 5 comp, that was on Indochina tho and we walled a lot.

[Jaeger]

With kynesie and Tit we won 5 comp, that was on Indochina tho and we walled a lot.

You mean 5 comp with 100% handicap? I've done 2v6 with no handicap with Painomi, on like new england and saguenay with no wall laming

[[Armag] diarouga]

With kynesie and Tit we won 5 comp, that was on Indochina tho and we walled a lot.

You mean 5 comp with 100% handicap? I've done 2v6 with no handicap with Painomi, on like new england and saguenay with no wall laming

Idk, I found it very hard, they started to rush at 4min and spammed units as shit, then they hit fortress at 7-8min, that's insane.

[Jaeger]

With kynesie and Tit we won 5 comp, that was on Indochina tho and we walled a lot.

You mean 5 comp with 100% handicap? I've done 2v6 with no handicap with Painomi, on like new england and saguenay with no wall laming

Idk, I found it very hard, they started to rush at 4min and spammed units as shit, then they hit fortress at 7-8min, that's insane.

Yeah this Painomi guy is insane in compstomp lol, he sucked hard in 1v1 but he was doing compstomp for like 2 years and even told me about compstomp meta xD

[lordraphael]

beating 1 expert ai with 100 % is easy
and im not talking about anything cheesy just std play beats it

[deleted_user0]

tibia did it today with standard play, so must not be too hard DX