TAKING WATER WITH JAPAN

[NamikazeMinato]

guys how do I take water with Japan ? (btw Kyneise told me there are 2 ways and he also said the bos ; but I dont have an idea of how to execute it properly (ty ).
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[Mimsy for President]

People will give you numerous advice and tips that may seem meaningful, but are totally useless at the end of the day. And the worst part is that they will start arguing about those.

[P i k i l i c]

Try to find record games of kynesie playing Japan on water, I'd be surprised if you don't find any

[KINGofOsmane]

i got some from kynesie, need to search

[DaRkNiTe1698]

Yes, talked about this with kynesie, some weeks ago. He said he uses 2 different BOs, because of the maps, if he's playing on a good water map, then he likes playing full water, otherwise he uses the alternative BO, for small water maps and it's like 3boats or so. His full water boom BO is very nice, it's the best I have found so far, he does:

dock card
600w
2fune
water eco cards

To execute it well, you need much practise I guess. Also he does have 4 docks before 6 min and he builds tons of wall, because it's actually a very greedy build. He said he does make unit around 11 min mark lol, so imagine how many walls he makes to survive

[NamikazeMinato]

ty :) can u send me the recs ? @KINGofOsmane

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@DaRkNiTe1698

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[Kynesie]

Yes, talked about this with kynesie, some weeks ago. He said he uses 2 different BOs, because of the maps, if he's playing on a good water map, then he likes playing full water, otherwise he uses the alternative BO, for small water maps and it's like 3boats or so. His full water boom BO is very nice, it's the best I have found so far, he does:

dock card
600w
2fune
water eco cards

To execute it well, you need much practise I guess. Also he does have 4 docks before 6 min and he builds tons of wall, because it's actually a very greedy build. He said he does make unit around 11 min mark lol, so imagine how many walls he makes to survive

Just 3 tips :
-You need to up fast, i mean with 11 vills, or even 10.With a 200w start , u can 10/10 port consulate. -> The goal is to send 600w as fast as possible, because tou need to build other dock fast in case of opponent send 2 warship card first.And anyway your boom is starting with 600w, u need them fast :) (And if you up with 12-13 vills , u can be overpop 20/20...)
-If your opponent rush on land , u can make a rax(next to water ofc) and 5 yumi, and use wall and warship.
-When you'll get insulted, keep calm and let him rage

[Gichtenlord]

Do you have some recs saved?

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@Kynesie

[Kynesie]

Nah , i will try to save some games. Maybe king or marco have some recs idk

[spanky4ever]

@Kynesie

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I really enjoyed your tournament game vs Aizamk on water. OP played - and as far as I have seen, you are the only player, thus far, using the small islands. Impressive game IMO

[dietschlander]

#Kynesie could you stream some time again?

[Kynesie]

@Kynesie

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I really enjoyed your tournament game vs Aizamk on water. OP played - and as far as I have seen, you are the only player, thus far, using the small islands. Impressive game IMO

Thx I think that water games are the most interesting to watch.

#Kynesie could you stream some time again?

Idk , i think i will buy a new comp next month, but not sure i can stream with my connection...

[dietschlander]

didn't ESOC provided you with money last tourney you were on to do so?

[pecelot]

we paid you for that!

[forgrin]

guys how do I take water with Japan ? (btw Kyneise told me there are 2 ways and he also said the bos ; but I dont have an idea of how to execute it properly (ty ).
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With water it's not executing the BOs, it's mostly having the necessary defending skill and experience with playing from behind in military count for most of the game. The reason kynesie wins isn't because his BOs are OP, it's because he's really good at holding pressure.

[pecelot]

Still, you need a strong basis, with no TPs shipments become really expensive and you often have to decide whether you can extend your boom or focus on defending more, which is not an easy task.

[NamikazeMinato]

@Kynesie

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any videos where u played water with japan ? :)

[deuxballesman]

Yes such a shame the mappool was so antiKynesie looking forward to the next tournament for water/wall OPness

[NamikazeMinato]

I was asking for any uploaded recs ; not only in this tourney :)

[leaf4]

I have a Garja vs Kynesie game .. was fun to watch ( water )...cant get it to you on this pc though

[Kynesie]

This one : http://www.rts-sanctuary.com/The-Asian- ... try2377053
Epic comment from Garja

I will try to rec some games this weekend

[leaf4]

ahaha

[sirmusket]

Yes, talked about this with kynesie, some weeks ago. He said he uses 2 different BOs, because of the maps, if he's playing on a good water map, then he likes playing full water, otherwise he uses the alternative BO, for small water maps and it's like 3boats or so. His full water boom BO is very nice, it's the best I have found so far, he does:

dock card
600w
2fune
water eco cards

To execute it well, you need much practise I guess. Also he does have 4 docks before 6 min and he builds tons of wall, because it's actually a very greedy build. He said he does make unit around 11 min mark lol, so imagine how many walls he makes to survive

well actually water play requires very high apm, to execute "well" you should be pr30+ imo