2 ep games vs hokedog(russia vs china)

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2 ep games vs hokedog(russia vs china)

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seems to be a bad mu for China :hmm:
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Re: 2 ep games vs umeu(russia vs china)

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Will watch recs later but going 50 pop age I and just sending military cards while not making any units and therefore just gathering all the res for III always did trick for me.
Pro tip: the age II monk card works wonders if you age to III with disciples:O
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yemshi wrote:Will watch recs later but going 50 pop age I and just sending military cards while not making any units and therefore just gathering all the res for III always did trick for me.
Pro tip: the age II monk card works wonders if you age to III with disciples:O


I played from Russia's side.
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I saw but since you sad that this MU is quite bad for China I thought that I might just drop a comment on that :flowers:
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It is a shit mu for China though
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umeu's no longer top quality player :(
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Yea it's a tough mu for China. Normal FF doesn't work because russia is in your base before age3 wonder goes down and then you're basically idled the entire game. While CM generally is good vs Russia, the china version is pretty bad because of no additional sets of MM to call out.

On a TP map china can start tp+village and then send 3 unit shipments back-to-back to try and break Russia's fb early (need a 2nd village in transition for this). This could be hard if russia already has 2bh up and goes 5/4/13 but can work vs a more timing-based russia, which usually means 700w 2nd or 3d.
Taking down the fb should buy time enough to age, especially since you're not idled during all this time.

On non-TP it's probably too slow to send 3 straight unit shipments, better go 700w early after a unit shipment to hold. Get down some infrastructure, an early consulate is good even without 300exp because you can still get the bh from Russian ally almost directly in age2. Play colonial a bit before trying to age.

Also can't stress enough how important base-building is for China in this mu. If Russia has free entrance to your base it's gonna be a tough game regardless of your build. Using palace, market, village and a few walls to block is really crucial in repelling that 1st wave from russia. Image below shows a decent example:
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On EP water maps, could dock start work for China? And then just stay colonial? Old han isn't terrible, although by nature it folds to Boyars.
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momuuu wrote:On EP water maps, could dock start work for China? And then just stay colonial? Old han isn't terrible, although by nature it folds to Boyars.


umeu tried that start in alaska game, wasnt so great
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lemmings121 wrote:
momuuu wrote:On EP water maps, could dock start work for China? And then just stay colonial? Old han isn't terrible, although by nature it folds to Boyars.


umeu tried that start in alaska game, wasnt so great

Ai, then probably the best strategy is a suprise shipment spam. Russia can actually lose to that pretty easily.
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pecelot wrote:umeu's no longer top quality player :(


Its not even me

And it would be nice if this guy would stop attaching my name to his ego posts lol
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I changed the title to reflect the name of the individual playing.
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But our past is a ghost fading out that at night it’s still haunting.

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It seems that my dear friend has difficulties with Brazilians.
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umeu wrote:
pecelot wrote:umeu's no longer top quality player :(


Its not even me

And it would be nice if this guy would stop attaching my name to his ego posts lol

are not ego post, are just for game entertainment,sorry
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Lol 2nd time you post games and say its me when its not. And you only post games you win. = 100% ego post. I dont even know who u are so would be nice if this is the last time
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umeu wrote:Lol 2nd time you post games and say its me when its not. And you only post games you win. = 100% ego post. I dont even know who u are so would be nice if this is the last time

Ok, np
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just post some looses too, but keep posting games. we rarely see record games here anymore, outside of tournaments.
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umeu wrote:
pecelot wrote:umeu's no longer top quality player :(


Its not even me

And it would be nice if this guy would stop attaching my name to his ego posts lol

it doesn't affect my statement whatsoever :smile:
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who the fuck is hokedog?
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nice...
keep posting
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Yea, it's a very bad MU for China.
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The only thing I have remotely had success with is playing age2 for like 3 age 2 cards, because as was said, once boyars comes you die. You have to be age3 by then.
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gg umeu
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Dont worry umeu u can lose too, also people say its a bad mu for u. ;)
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HUMMAN wrote:Dont worry umeu u can lose too, also people say its a bad mu for u. ;)

Yanawa is Umeu?

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