How do i micro? Me french (pr 18) vs dutch (pr 22)

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How do i micro? Me french (pr 18) vs dutch (pr 22)

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I was winning throughout the match then his composition of skirms Swiss pikeman and mass vet huss just beated my skirm goon and cuirassier comp. I think i microed wrong or had the wrong comp. Sorry i dont have in game rec cause i recorded with obs so i posted it on youtube. Pls look at it whole

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Re: How do i micro? Me french (pr 18) vs dutch (pr 22)

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I think your micro was mostly ok. Maybe you needed to get the skirms on the swiss pikes a little more, and maybe you could have been a little more goon heavy especially at the start of his push, but I think your main problem was your eco vs. his. He had a timing with the pikes that he could boom behind, but you had just 1 TC and all your stagecoaches on food, which is not the most efficient way to gather. I think if you had put down 1 or 2 more TCs and put your coaches on wood and coin, and hunted until all hunts were gone and then made mills, you could have outboomed him with your map control and then outmassed him.
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Squamiger wrote:I think your micro was mostly ok. Maybe you needed to get the skirms on the swiss pikes a little more, and maybe you could have been a little more goon heavy especially at the start of his push, but I think your main problem was your eco vs. his. He had a timing with the pikes that he could boom behind, but you had just 1 TC and all your stagecoaches on food, which is not the most efficient way to gather. I think if you had put down 1 or 2 more TCs and put your coaches on wood and coin, and hunted until all hunts were gone and then made mills, you could have outboomed him with your map control and then outmassed him.


I had more eco then him according to graph when i had tps. I put them on food because there were no hunts left or maybe i missed some but i am pretty sure. I dont know gathering rates but i assumed gold from mines gather father then food from berrys thats why i put all of them on food. And when i looked at graphs i had more mass but i lost more in big fights. So i dont know man.
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You didnt fight.

You only tried to retreat all the time.

That s not what brave warriors call fighting.

That s why you lost.

Edit: Just my 50 Cents, or how do you call that?. Greetings, Richard.
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richard wrote:You didnt fight.

You only tried to retreat all the time.

That s not what brave warriors call fighting.

That s why you lost.

Edit: Just my 50 Cents, or how do you call that?. Greetings, Richard.

Makes sense
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Re: How do i micro? Me french (pr 18) vs dutch (pr 22)

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A couple of things, i think.
-Ur goons were out of position, they had to run up for like 5secs which is a lot, also you saw ealrier he was making huss so 10goons is not enough. You should have had 20-30 goons in that situation i feel
-kite more, dont just run back, the idea behind that is to cancel the setup-animations the units do (they also reload while walking), so you wanna shoot, run for a bit, then shoot again, so that you are either shooting or moving all the time and not stuck in that silly reload animation
-here especially you want to kite with your goons, since the skirms arent gonna do much anyways running them back is fine, but better again would be kiting. U let ur goons just sit there and get meleed, which they dont like (they have range resist)
-also u already had a skirm advantage and u were producing more skirms (unnecessary) and cuirs (only when u have enough goons), goons would have been much better as you saw how much cav he had
Last, if you really wanna get into it watch VeniVidiVici's Micro Tutorials on his youtube

Hope that helps.
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Re: How do i micro? Me french (pr 18) vs dutch (pr 22)

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Shikari wrote:
richard wrote:You didnt fight.

You only tried to retreat all the time.

That s not what brave warriors call fighting.

That s why you lost.

Edit: Just my 50 Cents, or how do you call that?. Greetings, Richard.

Makes sense


Greedy men usually some day have to face others who want to slam in their face.

U were just getting greedier and greedier.

But your army was a "run-away-army", that cant just stay and fight if someone wants to slam in their face.

Try to build an army that doesnt have to run away when the enemy comes.

Greediness has to be punished, like in real life.
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richard wrote:
Shikari wrote:
richard wrote:You didnt fight.

You only tried to retreat all the time.

That s not what brave warriors call fighting.

That s why you lost.

Edit: Just my 50 Cents, or how do you call that?. Greetings, Richard.

Makes sense


Greedy men usually some day have to face others who want to slam in their face.

U were just getting greedier and greedier.

But your army was a "run-away-army", that cant just stay and fight if someone wants to slam in their face.

Try to build an army that doesnt have to run away when the enemy comes.

Greediness has to be punished, like in real life.

Uhhhhhhhh... What?
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Re: How do i micro? Me french (pr 18) vs dutch (pr 22)

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He says you needs ballzzz
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HUMMAN wrote:He says you needs ballzzz

Ok next time I'll melle mode my skirms and goon against huss and pikes like a true warrior.
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Re: How do i micro? Me french (pr 18) vs dutch (pr 22)

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Yeah ur micro sucked, that is the prob.. and also do u had any strategy? . Looks like you were just chill playing.
U had the tp line.. and at one point u had the oppurtunity to go age4, yet u refrained from doing that and instead invested on army, instead of putting your entire army to battle, I suggest you constantly pressure him.In this situation u pressured him by destroying the tps which is good, you couldve also tried establishing a second base beside his tc and train some musks or curs..
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hail krich, man amongst men and no.1 fighter worldwide
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Re: How do i micro? Me french (pr 18) vs dutch (pr 22)

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Not so bad! You still have time to perfect your game before the World Championships begin!
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Snuden wrote:Not so bad! You still have time to perfect your game before the World Championships begin!

Hmm love your sarcasm.
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Re: How do i micro? Me french (pr 18) vs dutch (pr 22)

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You should have won this game, but somehow you managed to lose it ;)
Your unit positioning is really bad, if you change this then you probably stomp any Lt. Maybe play a few games TimetoMicro Scenario to improve this. (https://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14812)
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great advice from great players
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deleted_user wrote:great advice from great players


it s not about playing. it s about fighting.

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