vs water
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vs water
Someone can teach me how play vs that?
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Re: vs water
Put an illegal 11th card in your deck then "plop" on him with a million units.
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Re: vs water
Only if EP team or ok with switching 2 HC in age 3. With that i could use 12 cards age 3 and 2 HC againt water is pretty nice!deleted_user wrote:Put an illegal 11th card in your deck then "plop" on him with a million units.
Re: vs water
I think you did well on water early. Probably 1kw immediately after spanish gold and get stage + tc on coast maybe. The scary part isnt to survive as ports, it's to survive while other guy is scaling behind his preasure
Re: vs water
Atp here to get 6 tps and then fi for hc, skirm ,rod and culv, i think this is better than fast age 3 push where ports can send cm and hold easy with 3tc fire and mm.
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Not sure if FI is really the best vs. Port water. I have very rarely seen that work, although I havent seen Spain in particular try.
I always feel when someone goes (semi) FI vs port water, Port will have walls+3 tcs+culv+organs etc and like double the eco, plus only slightly slower age4 itself.
I always feel when someone goes (semi) FI vs port water, Port will have walls+3 tcs+culv+organs etc and like double the eco, plus only slightly slower age4 itself.
Re: vs water
True that but it feels more winable for me than agressive age 3 play, after idk how many games vs kynesie.
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Re: vs water
join ep patch team-> threaten and lobby for great plains to be the only map (all other maps are made into reskins) -> lobby for atp buf -> have fun!
Re: vs water
Yeah, idk. I always wonder if vs. water you can't play early age2 full water plus some land (pikes) yourself and win because you have more stuff (he invests into sea eco, you only in navy), but from games I've seen it doesn't seem to work for some reason. Maybe because of the port second TC.Rohbrot wrote:True that but it feels more winable for me than agressive age 3 play, after idk how many games vs kynesie.
Something like, age up with tower, put on sea, send 700w first, make cara, ship 2 cara, then attack. And/or add rax+pikes if his rax is away from TC. And/or add a native TP with 700w for canoes.
But that's just a theoretical idea, prolly doesnt work well in practice...
Re: vs water
Port can hold all units spain has in age 2 with 2tcs bow/musk + cm , when spain goes full sea fight it wont end good since spain will be later aged to fortress what gives the edge again to port imo.
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Re: vs water
To be honest what he did in this game seems much better than age 2 or age 4. Just try to scale better with 1000w earlier and some small mistakes like not losing 2 falc to huss etc. But overall really solid strat
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Re: vs water
How stronge the boat upg is for his cost?
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Which boat upgrade?chronique wrote:How stronge the boat upg is for his cost?
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Re: vs water
Idk how many upg there are??Rohbrot wrote:Which boat upgrade?chronique wrote:How stronge the boat upg is for his cost?
Re: vs water
Steel plating( the hp upgrade) is the best. It’s pretty expensive but adding 400 hp on a caravel is huge. The attack upgrades aren’t as good.
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Re: vs water
yeah the armour plating one is the first upgrade to get even if its 800 res
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Re: vs water
But when you have 1 fregate, is it better to tech your fregate or to train an other one?
Re: vs water
yea if you're gonna commit to a long see fight its obviously good, if ur early in age 3 just trying to do like a 2 fregate timing to take control obviously 1 fregate with steel plating is worse than 2 fregates.
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Re: vs water
And what is the best against water play? 2 fregate timing or 1 fregate, then upg, then other boat? when your plan is not to be a kynesis player but just contest them?
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Re: vs water
Frigate, youre obviously useless at anagramschris1089 wrote:What's a fregate?
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Re: vs water
That's not an anagram.Black_Duck wrote:Frigate, youre obviously useless at anagramschris1089 wrote:What's a fregate?
taferig would be though.
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Re: vs water
No, but tafereg would bechris1089 wrote:That's not an anagram.Black_Duck wrote:Frigate, youre obviously useless at anagramschris1089 wrote:What's a fregate?
taferig would be though.
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