Learning to lame port water

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@deleted_user5 I think I finally started knowing how to deal with the most things that seemed deadly to me. :smile: :flowers:
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Senor_Boe wrote:@deleted_user5 I think I finally started knowing how to deal with the most things that seemed deadly to me. :smile: :flowers:
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Senor_Boe wrote:@deleted_user5 I think I finally started knowing how to deal with the most things that seemed deadly to me. :smile: :flowers:
U will be high tier few time.. nice train and practice
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look wrote:
Senor_Boe wrote:@deleted_user5 I think I finally started knowing how to deal with the most things that seemed deadly to me. :smile: :flowers:
U will be high tier few time.. nice train and practice
thanks :flowers:
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@Senor_Boe

Lets continue from where we stayed. The game against iTzAndrettiR brits, you had a bad placement for 2nd tc again, however you did a good job defending your frontline dock, but what I hated most was after you almost destoryed him on water, you just lost it again because you didn't have enough caravels to kill just 1 dock.. That wasnt good of you.

About the game you played otto, I think you started it really bad. You shouldn't play it in age2 when you go water boom as otto. So you just lost almost your whole army in age2. Also I'm not sure if full water worths, semi water might be better, need to test it, late game you did great job with your unit composition. Well played overall.

About the 1st game Against otto player where you played as ports, I think you made a very big mistake by making seperate 2 tcs, when you play vs otto, you generally should put 2tc together otherwise it's quite hard to hold the rush. That was a mistake from the beginning.Ah an opponent kept losing units against warships, so it's rather he threw the game than you winning, you could do better.

The 2nd game rec you played against otto doesn't work some reason.

About the game against germany, It says "the game is invalid"
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This thread is so good man.
I learned that with right advice and feedback, one can improve really quickly.
Really appreciate Senor for going from PR 22 to PR 29 in such a short span of time, that too with Portugal. Really grateful to Breeze who takes out his time to review his recs and provides valuable advice which applies to players other than Senor as well.

I believe this is a beautiful purpose of this forum.

We should have different coaching threads for civs/styles where they take 3-4 Lieutenants per coach. It may benefit a good deal of players other than the students themselves. Just my opinion.

I don't know if this system will be viable for long term or not. Not sure if it would be worth the time players invest in. But I really like the idea of it.

I will enjoy when someone creates a Dutch coaching thread.
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_DB_ wrote:This thread is so good man.
I learned that with right advice and feedback, one can improve really quickly.
Really appreciate Senor for going from PR 22 to PR 29 in such a short span of time, that too with Portugal. Really grateful to Breeze who takes out his time to review his recs and provides valuable advice which applies to players other than Senor as well.

I believe this is a beautiful purpose of this forum.

We should have different coaching threads for civs/styles where they take 3-4 Lieutenants per coach. It may benefit a good deal of players other than the students themselves. Just my opinion.

I don't know if this system will be viable for long term or not. Not sure if it would be worth the time players invest in. But I really like the idea of it.

I will enjoy when someone creates a Dutch coaching thread.
Thanks!I appreciate your text and interests, everyone here been very welcoming and nice and supportful and Breeze is a very nice person and coach,I watched alot of kynesie's and breeze's recorded games before some months and they were so fun and interesting to watch which pushed me to try & start trying to learning this creative playstyle.I might have not got to be a legit major yet with this playstyle yet, but I think it wouldn't take long since i mastered the basics and I just need to play more games to improve from now. :flowers:
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If someone wants to create a "coaching thread" about a civ/style I know, I can help.
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I'd be interested to learn some kind of semi-ff (with France or Germany I guess) but right now my problems seem to come from my abyssal app rather than some build order/strategic decisions problems were a good player look would really help me.
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@deleted_user5 I find it quite hard to save my tc vs all in land otto / india even with 2 layers.I think Im supposed to have 2 tcs together but it's really tricky you never know if these civs are going water or no. I guess I need to check deck but still sometimes, people decide to commit land even with a land deck & then try to 2 vel.I think its fine if i lose my tc since i have alot of boats that he can't attack and I can live in the shore with ships protecting me and overall easy place to wall. But it would still be cool if I manage to save my 1st tc.Cheers
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still playing on eso?
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@deleted_user5 how to play vs this :O .waiting ur answers on prev recs :flowers:
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I also paniced sometimes and forgot to contest most of the whales xd
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who's EddieJr
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Senor_Boe wrote:@deleted_user5 how to play vs this :O .waiting ur answers on prev recs :flowers:
Hey, I will watch all of them soon.
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Senor_Boe wrote:@deleted_user5 how to play vs this :O .waiting ur answers on prev recs :flowers:
Hey, I will watch all of them soon.
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@deleted_user5 I just won here because india didnt put Agra fort on the coast. that one is really hard to deal with like agra dosent let your vels heal at all since its in range with your docks and the 12 sepoy rush on your tc plus 2 vel is so hard to deal with.None the less he played land,and you can see my struggles with base building when i cant build mills or place my army properly :(
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Could u maybe do a explorer machine gun BO tutorial? Would be much appreciated thx
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Sure, what you gonna give me for it?
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@deleted_user5 Hi! Did you finish the recs?
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Senor_Boe wrote:Sure, what you gonna give me for it?
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@Senor_Boe Let's start with the first game you vs absolutestandard on dhaka... Great BO execution by you, I think you could have age up earlier to IV or make some units in age III because you both go for water and it's not like you should skip making units that long. Other than that I liked your culverin mico ;)

About the game vs absolute otto... I already told you many times, why do you still keep having seperated TCs? you can't hold rush like that. And you couldnt there aswell. But since opponent didn't care of killing your 15 vills you were in a fine position. Since opponent ignores the water, he deserved to lose it more by ignoring to pick water deck and playing it on water. So eventually you won.

1st game against EddieJr is good example of what happens when you don't scout properly and if opponent doesn't ignore water. Still, it wasn't over yet but resigning there also makes sense since you played it really bad.

2nd EddieJr game wasn't even over yet lol. but you play it quite passive again, as the result he is taking the %80 land control and start pushing water after poking some. Don't be that passive next time.

after watching 2 horrible games against EddieJr, 3rd one looked to be going good, nice water control and tc placement this time but wait, you really don't make any units either send cm against 50 brit musks? That mistake is big enough to lose it.

About the game vs India, it's hard to beat india as ports yeah, a hard mu. As you mentioned above, your opponent didnt play it very correctly, didn't push water and the agra placement wasnt ideal. you also did good job defending. gg
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@deleted_user5 about the culvs. my game was freezing and I couldn't shoot the ships xD. And for otto game, It seems rather scary to get ur 3 docks rushed by jans and vels without a tc protecting it,you told me before that i must put tc in water vs civs that contest water, I actualy haven't tried it since long but I really think that will destroy my water. what do you think?
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Ah yea sorry you said against TWC civs or most likely aztec that contests water*

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