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16 Mar 2017, 18:22

Time Line

Sign Ups

February 26th - March 26th

Group Stages

April 3rd - April 16th

Bracket Stages

Round of 128 (BO3)
April 17th - April 23rd

Round of 64 (BO3)
April 24th - April 30th

Round of 32 (BO5)
May 1st - May 7th

Round of 16 (BO5)
May 8th - May 14th

Quarter Finals (BO7)
May 15th - May 21th

Semi-Finals (BO7)
May 22nd - May 28th

Finals (BO9) - 3rd/4th (BO7)
May 29th - June 4th

Note: When necessary, the tournament staff may extend the deadline for any match if scheduling proves to be an issue. There is one week built into the timeline for this.
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16 Mar 2017, 18:23

Tournament Rules

Civilization Restrictions

These civilization restrictions have the purpose to bring variety to the game series for the community.

You must play X different civilizations, then you can play any civilization one more time:

In a Best-of-3, you must play 2 different civilizations, then you can play any civilization one more time.
In a Best-of-5, you must play 3 different civilizations, then you can play any civilization one more time.
In a Best-of-7, you must play 4 different civilizations, then you can play any civilization one more time.
In a Best-of-9, you must play 5 different civilizations, then you can play any civilization one more time.

Example for BO3: You must play 2 different civilizations, then you can play any civilization you want one more time.

Game 1 (Best-of-3)

Player A plays British
Player B plays French

Game 2 (Best-of-3)

Player A may not play British
Player B may not play French

Player A plays Dutch
Player B plays Russians

Game 3 (Best-of-3)

Player A may play any civilization (he may either pick British or Dutch)
Player B may play any civilization (he may either pick French or Russians)

Player A plays British
Player B plays Russians
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Gameplay Rules

1.1 - Players will freely pick their civilization in game 1. After that, players alternatively pick their civilization, starting with the winner of game 1.

1.2 - Every player must respect their opponent, casters and organizers. Misbehavior will result in a warning and can lead into disqualification. Racism and/or insults will not be tolerated.

1.3 - Every game must be recorded.

1.4 - When a player disconnects from the internet BEFORE 2 minutes, the player can (when both agree) restart and replay the game. When the opponent does not agree to restart, the outcome of the game will be determined by the tournament staff.

1.5 - When a player disconnects AFTER 2 minutes, the players can (when both agree) restart and replay the game. When the opponent does not agree to restart, the player who lost connection will be given a loss.

1.6 - Every player may restart a game BEFORE the 2 minute mark when necessary. This is allowed ONCE per map when the game is NOT casted by an official caster. Restarts for CASTED games will be determined by the caster him/herself.

1.7 - The caster is allowed to restart a game as many times as necessary for optimal play.

1.8 - All games must be submitted to the "Tournament Record Games" forum.

1.9 - Recorded games must be renamed and posted to match the stick in the recorded games section.

1.10 - Players must be respectable to each other when selecting civilizations in a game. Players cannot intentionally change to unfair match-ups, or otherwise be difficult to agree to a match-up. The tournament staff reserves the right to two possible outcomes. 1. If only one player is deemed challenging, then that player will be forced to pick their civilization first. 2. If both players are disagreeable then blind pick will be enforced. This decision is made by the staff.
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Casting Rules

2.1 - It is every players responsibility to work with tournament staff for the casting of games.

2.2 - If the players and caster(s) determine that a selected match cannot be streamed due to lag, in order to provide an optimal environment for competitive play, the match may be streamed from the replays instead.

2.3 - Only casters that have been authorized by the tournament staff will be permitted to stream matches.

2.4 - The players in casted matches will be required to schedule their matches with their opponents and with the authorized caster(s).

2.5 - All streamed games must have a time delay of 2 minutes.

2.6 - The tournament staff reserves the right to extend the deadline of the match if deemed appropriate.

2.7 - All tournament streamed matches must be recorded.

2.8 - No additional observers may be present in games.
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Disqualification Rules

3.1 - All external exploits and game modification software are forbidden. The tournament administration reserves the right to disqualify a player for use of any exploits to gain an unfair advantage.

3.2 - Exploits include but are not limited to: Map Hacks, Trainers, Explorer Revival Glitch, OOS / Intentional Lag (Stacked downloads or other game crashing exploits), and mods (building rotator, zoom modification).

3.3 - Use of these exploits is grounds for removal from the event.

3.4 - If you suspect your opponent has violated any of the player integrity rules, finish the game and submit it for review with an explanation of why you think the game was unfair. If the tournament staff members find someone to be guilty of cheating, the cheater will be disqualified from the tournament.

3.5 - The tournament staff has the right to disqualify a player in cases where there is severe lag to the point where the playing and/or viewing experience is unusually burdened.

3.6 - The registered account name must be the main account of its owner for proper seeding.

3.7 - When a player is disqualified, he/she has no right to claim any prize money.

3.8 - A disqualification may only be committed if all tournament staff agrees. The tournament staff consists of Mr_Bramboy, MCJim, and Jerom_.
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Prize Pool

The total prize pool is $1,500 (USD). The prize pool will be distributed as follows:

First place: $1,000
Second place: $400
Third place: $100
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Scheduling Rules

4.1 - Players must respond with the times they are available to play in their dedicated scheduling thread. Players will then play out their games on the given maps.

4.2 - Posts in scheduling topics will be considered along with interaction with admins when making decisions regarding scheduling. Other communications will not be considered.

4.3 - Players must play the series in the map order given, after vetoes have been issued.

4.4 - Players cannot deny casters without consulting with the tournament admins first.
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Seeding Rules

5.1 - Any player who has finished in the top 16 of the last event and signs up again will be automatically seeded in the top 16 seeds based on their performance and players who sign up.

5.2 - 12 seeds are distributed using 1v1 ELO. Higher the ELO the better the seed.

5.3 - 4 seeds are distributed as wild cards.
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16 Mar 2017, 18:23

Map Pool, Map Rules, and Map Vetoes

The map pool for the entire tournament will be as follows:

Group Stages: Kamchatka, Malaysia, High Plains
RO128: Fertile Crescent, Jebel Musa, Herald Island, Florida, Manchac
RO64: Thar Desert, Tassili, Baja California, Mendocino, Manchuria
RO32: Hudson Bay, Arizona, Colorado, Bengal, Malaysia, Kamchatka, Fertile Crescent
RO16: Arkansas, Tassili, Pampas Sierras, Klondike, Baja California, Adirondacks, Bengal
RO8: Mendocino, Indonesia, Thar Desert, Tibet, Iowa, Jebel Musa, Herald Island, Manchuria, Cascade Range, High Plains, Tassili
RO4: Jebel Musa, Tassili, Gran Chaco, Manchuria, Klondike, Manchac, Hudson Bay, Fertile Crescent, Bengal, Malaysia, Arkansas
RO2: Mendocino, Iowa, Florida, Thar Desert, Indonesia, Gran Chaco, Herald Island, Bonnie Springs, Tibet, Cascade Range, High Plains, Manchuria, Kamchatka
Bronze Match: Herald Island, Adirondacks, Pampas Sierras, Malaysia, High Plains, Bengal, Fertile Crescent, Mendocino, Jebel Musa, Arkansas, Colorado

Veto System
6.1 - The veto system is active from the bracket stages only. (RO128)

6.2 - Both players have one veto per BO3 & BO5 and two vetoes per BO7.

6.3 - The player with the highest 1v1 ELO at the time of seeding will pick their veto first.

6.4 - The veto must be issued in the scheduling thread by Thursday.

6.5 - Failure to issue the veto in time will result in your opponent receiving your veto; essentially giving them two vetoes

6.6 - If both players fail to issue their veto in time, the last two maps will automatically be removed

6.7 - After vetoes have been issued, maps will move down one spot.

Example
The map pool for a BO3 is:
1) ESOC Manchuria
2) ESOC Indonesia
3) ESOC Arkansas
4) ESOC Kamchatka
5) ESOC Fertile Crescent

Player 1 has an ELO of 2100
Player 2 has an ELO of 2200

Player 2 issues his veto first.

Player 2 bans ESOC Arkansas
Player 1 bans ESOC Manchuria

The new map pool for a BO3 is:

1) ESOC Manchuria
2) ESOC Indonesia
3) ESOC Arkansas
4) ESOC Kamchatka
5) ESOC Fertile Crescent

Therefore:

1) ESOC Indonesia
2) ESOC Kamchatka
3) ESOC Fertile Crescent
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17 Mar 2017, 18:16

Ro8 is listed as a Best of 5, so 1 veto for each player, but there are 11 maps? Is it supposed to be a best of 7? (Which would then make sense as 2 vetos per player gives 7+4=11)
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18 Mar 2017, 10:50

ListlessSalmon wrote:Ro8 is listed as a Best of 5, so 1 veto for each player, but there are 11 maps? Is it supposed to be a best of 7? (Which would then make sense as 2 vetos per player gives 7+4=11)

Thanks, fixed. It's supposed to be a BO7.
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18 Mar 2017, 14:38

Mr_Bramboy wrote:3.7 - Use of the Chinese monastery tech "Training Reforms" is not allowed in the tournament. This tech is bugged and affects all units in certain circumstances so it has been removed.
The tech has been fixed... You are allowed to use it.
Patch Notes:
China Record Game bug caused by ypMonasteryDiscipleAura was changed to have no aura effect and increase Disciple base HP and base Hitpoints by 10%.
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22 Mar 2017, 10:40

I object, this tournament staff is not a good representation of esoc, it's only dutcheese
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umeu wrote:I object, this tournament staff is not a good representation of esoc, it's only dutcheese

You're free to join if you have any complaints.

Oh wait..
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22 Mar 2017, 12:09

Hi
It´s my first tournament and I´m very exited to get crushed by all of you :D
How does the groupstages work? It´s just one battle or a BO3? How many players are in one group? Are they all playing against each other?
How can I train on ep when I know no people playing and am just pr15, which means I am not a good training partner but want to learn the maps and the patch?
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22 Mar 2017, 12:14

GeneralBender wrote:Hi
It´s my first tournament and I´m very exited to get crushed by all of you :D
How does the groupstages work? It´s just one battle or a BO3? How many players are in one group? Are they all playing against each other?
How can I train on ep when I know no people playing and am just pr15, which means I am not a good training partner but want to learn the maps and the patch?


kinda out of luck to find a training partner but maybe you can find another pr15. The group stages are 1v1 best of 3 (first person to 2 wins)If you win your groupstage round you advance to the R0162. but you can always play against a computer on expert & try buildorders etc and learn the new maps. Good Luck this tournament :D
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22 Mar 2017, 13:17

Mr_Bramboy wrote:Prize Pool

The total prize pool is $1,500 (USD). The prize pool will be distributed as follows:

First place: $1,000
Second place: $400
Third place: $100

why not prizepool for 4 players ?
breeze wrote:they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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22 Mar 2017, 13:25

lordraphael wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:Prize Pool

The total prize pool is $1,500 (USD). The prize pool will be distributed as follows:

First place: $1,000
Second place: $400
Third place: $100

why not prizepool for 4 players ?

ESOC is trying something new
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22 Mar 2017, 13:26

lordraphael wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:Prize Pool

The total prize pool is $1,500 (USD). The prize pool will be distributed as follows:

First place: $1,000
Second place: $400
Third place: $100

why not prizepool for 4 players ?

Because theres a reason to play for 3rd place then, probably.

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22 Mar 2017, 13:33

Jerom wrote:
lordraphael wrote:
Mr_Bramboy wrote:Prize Pool

The total prize pool is $1,500 (USD). The prize pool will be distributed as follows:

First place: $1,000
Second place: $400
Third place: $100

why not prizepool for 4 players ?

Because theres a reason to play for 3rd place then, probably.

well if you forfeit you dont get a prize anyways so i dont see how that encourages losers finals being played.
breeze wrote:they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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22 Mar 2017, 13:34

Because you can win 100 bucks?

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22 Mar 2017, 14:07

Jerom wrote:Because you can win 100 bucks?

this makes no sense. Lets just say we split 1.5k like this 1. 800 2. 400. 3 200 4. 100
then you still double the amount of money you make. And if some1 forfeits it doesnt matter anyways, becasue he wont get any money regardless.
breeze wrote:they cant even guess how much f***ing piece of stupid retarded they look they are trying to give lesson to people who are over pr35 and know the best mu. im pretty sure that we need a page that only pr30+ post and then we could have a nice discussins.
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22 Mar 2017, 14:08

I guess thats a fair point. I just think people in 4th place are losers that don't deserve money.

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22 Mar 2017, 14:11

lordraphael wrote:
Jerom wrote:Because you can win 100 bucks?

this makes no sense. Lets just say we split 1.5k like this 1. 800 2. 400. 3 200 4. 100
then you still double the amount of money you make. And if some1 forfeits it doesnt matter anyways, becasue he wont get any money regardless.


i already made this point before. but ye, cant reason with da dutcheese!

I think prizemoney should be top4 as well, but it's not unprecedented if its only top3. There are good arguments for both sides.
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23 Mar 2017, 17:16

Let me just, for the record, put it out again, so ye Lordrapheal and Umeu are right. Top 3 and this skewed distribution is just stupid. Obviously it should be for top 4. And with more of the prize pool going to the 3rd place there is, apart from the achievement itself, a good reason to get 3rd not 4th.
The 1st place getting double the amount of 2nd is more than enough. Top 4 prize pool would be much more stimulating for everyone participating. Also for some others, who are good players but not top 3, to join as well.
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