Slinging in team games

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Slinging in team games

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Is it a legit strategy in AoE3? In AoE2 it is way too powerful, probably because it is very easy to wall and be totally safe.
Also, is there a tribute fee in AoE3? There are no techs that reduce it so i assume that if it actually is there, it's not very significant.
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You don't even need a market to do that. The troll sepoy renegado sling rush done by Octanium and site popped up into my mind. http://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=9742
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Yes, you have to pay 11 (or 12 if it's the first „batch") more resources each time you tribute 100 — unlike in AoC, any upgrades don't affect it. You can do some powerful strats, especially when your opponents don't make out what's going on. I have two almost identical recs in mind from Strong World 2016 — France slingling Ottomans (@EAGLEMUT :kinggreen:):

Game 1 — viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5901&p=132193#p132193

[spoiler=video]Game 2, 27:35

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Game 2 — viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5899
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Another sling but in very unique circumstances — viewtopic.php?f=137&t=6065
Unfortunately, the recording is broken and the stream video is lost — some of you may remember it, though. Bobabu and HerrKnight played vs Veni and Stanley on KnB Alps.

[spoiler=KnB Alps]http://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php?f=158&t=10603
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There was a sling in team 1, one player walled off the crossings (I think there were two separate between each valley, unlike on the screenshot), while the other quickly advanced to the Industrial Age for Trade Monopoly. It was great! :grin:

How is the balance worked around that in AoC, though? What are the counter-builds? :hmm:
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I saw this topic, saw Pecelot posted and thought it was "singing in team games".
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Sorry for a double-post, will merge it later on.

The last mentioned game was played on this custom version of Alps, way before it was implemented in the EP.

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I'll attach the map files, too, so that you can get the idea of what the game looked like :chinese:
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What are the best civs to sling somebody with?
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Perhaps the French :hmm:
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In aoe3 unit shipments are a big chunk of your power spike, so it's generally just better to have two people in fortress age than one in industrial and one in discovery basically. It's also somewhat harder to quickly boom up because TCs and vills are somewhat more limited than in aoe2, for as far as I can tell.
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pecelot wrote:Yes, you have to pay 11 (or 12 if it's the first „batch") more resources each time you tribute 100 — unlike in AoC, any upgrades don't affect it. You can do some powerful strats, especially when your opponents don't make out what's going on. I have two almost identical recs in mind from Strong World 2016 — France slingling Ottomans (@EAGLEMUT :kinggreen:):

Game 1 — viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5901&p=132193#p132193

[spoiler=video]Game 2, 27:35

phpBB [video]
[/spoiler]

Game 2 — viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5899
Attachment #1

Another sling but in very unique circumstances — viewtopic.php?f=137&t=6065
Unfortunately, the recording is broken and the stream video is lost — some of you may remember it, though. Bobabu and HerrKnight played vs Veni and Stanley on KnB Alps.

[spoiler=KnB Alps]http://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php?f=158&t=10603
Image[/spoiler]

There was a sling in team 1, one player walled off the crossings (I think there were two separate between each valley, unlike on the screenshot), while the other quickly advanced to the Industrial Age for Trade Monopoly. It was great! :grin:

How is the balance worked around that in AoC, though? What are the counter-builds? :hmm:
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yesh deep in my heart i know it was glebbo behind this mastapiece
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no you can't sing in team games. you're not adele or katy perry.
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Imperial Noob wrote:What are the best civs to sling somebody with?

I saw breeze/ageofkiller play otto and get boosted a few times in 3v3 with them into an age 4 revolt. Seemed rather successful from the couple of times I saw it on stream.
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Veni and stanley just got outplayed
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i lost alot vs astec with dutch sling strategie 2v2 team game, almost 10 pumas, some macehaultin, 2 skull knight in your base when you are colleting 400w as soon u age with French, SO OP, u cant do nothing eitheir or mm plus teamate mm cant help
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