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23 Sep 2017, 15:43

As the title states, the goal of this strategy is to Fast Fortress with china with an amazing eco.
Whether or not this build is actually better than the standard build is up for debate, but it is without a doubt more versatile than the other build.

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Age 1:
- Open either double village or village + TP. Either is fine, but personally I prefer village + TP unless there are some really good treasures or a lot of livestock. Save your goat until Colonial. - Send Northern Refugees.
- Age with the Summer Palace (400f), put 4 vills on the wonder.

Transition:
-Put all, but 4 vills to Wood, new vills go to Food. If you havent gotten any coin treasures, put few vills on coin after you've started building the market.
-As soon as you gather 100 wood, build a market and as soon as you have 50food, 50wood, 50coin, get the first big market upgrade, then get the first market upgrade and the first coin upgrade.
-You should be able to gather around 200 wood when you are nearing your age up. Start building the consulate with 1 villager and switch all your vills from wood to food and coin (split them) as soon as you ather 65 wood for the second market upgrade.

-In case you did open with village+tp, skip the market and get a second village instead. get the market in transition to Fortress.

Age 2:
- Send 400 export.
-400 export should arrive at about the same time your consulate finishes.
-Ally with Germans in the consulate and get the coin trickle, food trickle, wood trickle in that order. (you might need to wait abit to gather enough export for the wood trickle). When you get all of them, cancel the relations and ally with brit.
-Send 800 wood as your second card. gather 160 wood from the crates to get the second big market upgrade, then continue gathering food and coin with the vills that were used to gather the wood.

Transition
-From the 800 wood, build 2 raxes and a third Village.
-Put 8 vills on the wonder.

Age 3:
- Send 5 Meteor Hammers and make 2 batches of sword+skirm or Send 10 skirms and make 2 Cavalry batches, 1200w (for a second TC, more villages, tp), or 1200c (for iron Troops/Manchu). Send Intervention as a second (you wont be able to send it as a first card becase you would still be on German consulate when you get up.
- Ensure your Porcelain Tower is on wood, or food/coin if you feel you really need the resources for units, but try to never leave it on the trickle of all resources.
-When you get up you should be able to easily train units from both raxes at the same time due to your great eco thanks to the trickles.

Replays/VODs

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23 Sep 2017, 15:43

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23 Sep 2017, 16:40

China OP
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23 Sep 2017, 16:43

And how do you think you get the resources to age up to III?
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23 Sep 2017, 16:45

I like the 1000w -> 1200w and 700w ->800w changes, they were definitely some of the weakest shipments out there
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23 Sep 2017, 19:41

yemshi wrote:And how do you think you get the resources to age up to III?

I gather them with vills who have most if not all market upgrades on them. On top of that i have food+coin trickle (8 vills without market upgrades) that can never be idled.
Its basically Germany 3 SW, 700 wood naked FF with 5 more vills.
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23 Sep 2017, 21:38

thebritish wrote:On top of that i have food+coin trickle (8 vills without market upgrades) that can never be idled.

8 vills? :o

with how many vills do you even start there lol
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23 Sep 2017, 21:42

you start with more vills and they gather faster
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23 Sep 2017, 22:02

So how big are the trickles? :huh:
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23 Sep 2017, 22:06

thebritish wrote:Its basically Germany 3 SW, 700 wood naked FF with 5 more vills.

It doesn't seem broken at all then.

@Kaiserklein don't forget to notice that not only the terrible 700w has been buffed, but also the well known awful 300 export has been buffed too !
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23 Sep 2017, 22:20

If everything is buffed then nothing is buffed.
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23 Sep 2017, 22:23

Lol what is this wierd shit
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23 Sep 2017, 22:41

Gendarme wrote:If everything is buffed then nothing is buffed.

well brit benefits most from all the changes. Not a coincidence me thinks
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23 Sep 2017, 22:44

This might be the best China build out there right now, I will definitely be using this in my games from now on!

P.S. this thread actually made me laugh out loud. Made my day a little bit better.
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23 Sep 2017, 22:51

I like the Mitoe that steps out of his assigned admin role and is the Mitoe I know.
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23 Sep 2017, 22:52

Also 1200c would add for a SEAMLESS livestock FI.
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23 Sep 2017, 23:24

LOL I just glanced over the guide. "Send 400 export" and "Send 800 wood" crack me up more than they should.
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24 Sep 2017, 02:45

Wait.. On re you can only get food trickle with german consulate in age2. If you can get all of them it means you made them cheaper and you've changed their age requirement. You normally cant get coin till iv lol
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24 Sep 2017, 03:17

umeu wrote:Wait.. On re you can only get food trickle with german consulate in age2. If you can get all of them it means you made them cheaper and you've changed their age requirement. You normally cant get coin till iv lol

lol are you questioning VP (vane's patch)?
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24 Sep 2017, 05:29

Where are those precious patch notes then?
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No Flag thebritish
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24 Sep 2017, 05:53

@umeu
All 3 trickles are now available in age 2 and each of them is as good as 4 vills. Thats for a total of 12 vills without market upgrades. After you send 400 export, you can only get 2 trickles (8 vills) and you will have to wait abit to gather the rest export for the third trickle.

This was done, so people can play age 2 with china and have eco behind it if they invest into it (its 3 stagecoach tp eco).
Only the age reguirement has been changed, the export cost hasnt been changed. On paper it seems OP, but when you take Chinas civilisation bonus (access to consulate and export that is autogathered), you can see it kinda balances out.

chrisie wrote:you start with more vills and they gather faster

Actually, vills dont gather faster, they train faster and they are cheaper. And yes, you start with more vills at the start to speed up the game abit.


Rikikipu wrote:It doesn't seem broken at all then.

@Kaiserklein don't forget to notice that not only the terrible 700w has been buffed, but also the well known awful 300 export has been buffed too !

I am not sure whether this is sarcasm or not, but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and respond to it as if it was a serious post.
300 export was buffed to 400 export because civs like Japan and China never used it and it was easier to buff one card than to nerf 9 others. Its used by China players only when they all in with unit shipments and its used by Japan players when they club rush.
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24 Sep 2017, 07:43

The entire thread is sarcasm, Vane, including your OP.
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24 Sep 2017, 08:00

China is good on Vp but this bo is bad
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24 Sep 2017, 11:47

I wish I was skilled enough at the game to understand this joke.
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24 Sep 2017, 12:22

You don't have to do the former, actually :idea:
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