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Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 07:47
by deleted_user
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the op did not comprehend the MU of the week is map-dependent

Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 09:54
by BrookG
Would it be possible for the games you have already tested to upload the recs with a bit of information on what had happened what worked or not?

Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 10:25
by britrouga
BrookG wrote:Would it be possible for the games you have already tested to upload the recs with a bit of information on what had happened what worked or not?

The games weren't recorded, they were streamed however.

Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 10:35
by BrookG
I know about the stream. I am saying that it would be nice if all that was gathered in one place accompanied by some information

Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 12:41
by Kaiserklein
britrouga wrote:However, for ger I think it is just hopeless. If the no vill ff doesn't work, it means that it's just impossible to age, and trying to win in colo makes no sense.

Maybe you can age if you make units in colo and then age up fast. No colo units + slow age + waiting 1 min for BR is just super passive and slow, and the eco is low as well. I could see some kind of bow/dop semi do decent.

Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 13:23
by bwinner
Kaiserklein wrote:
britrouga wrote:However, for ger I think it is just hopeless. If the no vill ff doesn't work, it means that it's just impossible to age, and trying to win in colo makes no sense.

Maybe you can age if you make units in colo and then age up fast. No colo units + slow age + waiting 1 min for BR is just super passive and slow, and the eco is low as well. I could see some kind of bow/dop semi do decent.

BO ?
Isn't 3sw/700w/3dops/700g too slow without TP ?
3sw/700w/700g then ?

Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 13:29
by Garja
There is no way you can age, with either side, without eventually losing if opponent just keeps making units. Only possible way for that to happen is if, for example, one player opens with the wrong unit and gets countered early on.

Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 13:53
by britrouga
Garja wrote:There is no way you can age, with either side, without eventually losing if opponent just keeps making units. Only possible way for that to happen is if, for example, one player opens with the wrong unit and gets countered early on.

I think that the fre player can age.

Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 13:56
by britrouga
Kaiserklein wrote:
britrouga wrote:However, for ger I think it is just hopeless. If the no vill ff doesn't work, it means that it's just impossible to age, and trying to win in colo makes no sense.

Maybe you can age if you make units in colo and then age up fast. No colo units + slow age + waiting 1 min for BR is just super passive and slow, and the eco is low as well. I could see some kind of bow/dop semi do decent.

Shipments just come too slow, I'm not even sure you can survive with a semi ff, and even if you do, you get nothing from your 3rd age because you'll have no shipments, and you don't have goons in age 3

Re: MU of the week: Germans versus French on Cascade Range!

Posted: 28 Feb 2018, 14:00
by Garja
French can maybe barely age because they have cdbs who can hold more. And then they get 2falcs which can be a killer shipment with enough stuff to cover. But even then if they have no map control they're not going to win with 5 units per batch + shipments vs 10-15 units per batch+ shipments.