Brit vs aztec

[Hazza54321]

Hi im a completely jizzless rag when it comes to this Mu and wondered what builds/age2/3 compositons i should and what percentage of each composition (e.g 50% lb 30% musk 20% huss)

[deleted_user]

I think just lbow start and sit on natural resources as long as you can and try to force a fight not under the warhuts.

I like lbow, huss, then musk. Idk either tbh.

[gibson]

lb huss with a few pike probably works vs most comps

[Lukas_L99]

lb/huss + musk later on wrecks aztecs i think

[[Armag] diarouga]

Aztecs can't win this MU no matter what you do.

Huss start into musk/huss works but I'd say it's the easiest way for Aztecs to win.
My favourite strat is VC with lb start into musk/huss after you have 10/15 lb but you can also do it without VC.

You should just outboom and thus outmass really hard and when you get a big musk/huss army, there's nothing azzy can do with mace/pike.

[fei123456]

mass hussar, adding some longbow (but you don't need many of them)
upgraded hussar beat coyote

[deleted_user]

mass hussar, adding some longbow (but you don't need many of them)
upgraded hussar beat coyote

mace puma rush? Imo you need to almost always start lbow in this MU. mm bonus to puma yeah but you can't waste them early on like that

[Hazza54321]

Yea this is sorta what ive been doing but mace puma rekts musk huss and if you make alot of lbs their melee combo just shreds you. Lb dont kill pike fast enough and you cant kite so he just surrounds you and you cant do shit. Musk drop so fast whilst not killing coy fast enough

[[Armag] diarouga]

Yea this is sorta what ive been doing but mace puma rekts musk huss and if you make alot of lbs their melee combo just shreds you cos lb dont kill pike fast enough and you cant kite so he just surrounds you and you cant do shit, and musk drop so fast whilst not killing coy fast enough

Just make 10-15 lb to have the range advantage and hold in early game because their melee combo indeed rapes you if you go full lb.
Musk/huss however beats coyote/mace super easily.
You should check the council recs by the way. I think I have some brit vs aztecs games

[Garja]

just dont play me and you are fine

[[Armag] diarouga]

Well you're a free win in this match up so why not?

[Hazza54321]

Yea this is sorta what ive been doing but mace puma rekts musk huss and if you make alot of lbs their melee combo just shreds you cos lb dont kill pike fast enough and you cant kite so he just surrounds you and you cant do shit, and musk drop so fast whilst not killing coy fast enough

Just make 10-15 lb to have the range advantage and hold in early game because their melee combo indeed rapes you if you go full lb.
Musk/huss however beats coyote/mace super easily.
You should check the council recs by the way. I think I have some brit vs aztecs games

thanks have you got the link?

[deleted_user0]

hazza vs rouga azzy vs britsh!

[Hazza54321]

dont be absurd diarouga doesnt play

[[Armag] diarouga]

Yea, I don't play aoe3 anymore.
If you don't want to listen to my advice as a consequence you're free to do so, but I'd argue that Aztecs and Brits being my top 2 civs, my opinion about this MU is quite relevant.

[Garja]

Except your advice is bs and I got 75% win rate on all my accounts in this MU.
My tip: start huss.

[Goodspeed]

I don't see how a cav start helps you. You could be booming if you made a more cost effective composition like lb behind a wall.

[deleted_user0]

ep walls vs puma

[[Armag] diarouga]

ep walls vs puma

puma vs lb+ mm

[Goodspeed]

ep walls vs puma

Yes, to counter puma you surely need cav

[deleted_user0]

ep walls vs puma

Cav vs puma?

puma vs lb+ mm

i never said u should start cav.

[Garja]

I don't see how a cav start helps you. You could be booming if you made a more cost effective composition like lb behind a wall.

Raids, plus it force Aztecs to build puma which is their worst and more expensive unit.
Lb behind a wall is too much of a tell to Aztecs to do what they want.

[Goodspeed]

An Aztec that does what they want is still going to lose to a musk huss lb timing in my xp. Cav start prevents Brit from booming in early colonial, and then Azzy might just hold the timing later.

[[Armag] diarouga]

Except your advice is bs and I got 75% win rate on all my accounts in this MU.
My tip: start huss.

2 years ago I won with a huss start and you said that I got fucking lucky because huss start is way too greedy to hold a rush xD

Anyway, lb start is indeed better because you're not going to raid early on with your huss (you need them at home to hold the rush and you might lose them if you raid), and you're not even going to defend your market or your tower against pikes.
Furthermore, since 5 huss are more expensive than 5 lb and 10 huss a lot more expensive than10 lb, you'll have to skip like 4-5 manors ie 4-5 vills if open with hussars.

All in all, it's easier to hold with lb (because you have the range advantage and it means the aztec player will have to commit between your TC and your tower and get rekt by a mm pop), and you have a better eco so lb start is obviously better.
Something like 700w/600w for a good eco+stable and then 700c for a huss switch is very solid, you'll have a great eco, 10-15 lb to hold the rush early on, and huss in time for the Aztec timing if he commits, or to timing yourself else.

[Garja]

A Brit who tries to time an Aztec in colonial is going to lose in my xp.