Need an easy strategy for new player

Mordor · Post by **Mordor** » 27 Jul 2018, 03:12

What civ and tips on where to begin. I suck and can't play well at all if anyone has tips that would be great.

evilcheadar · Post by **evilcheadar** » 27 Jul 2018, 03:21

I've got one, pm me for deets.

Cometk · Post by **Cometk** » 27 Jul 2018, 03:26

@Mordor Hi bud, we have an excellent strategy wall here full of guides on how to play every civilization. A classic recommendation is to play French, as they're a very flexible civilization that have build orders in both Age 2 and Age 3 and have all the core unit types. Here is also a good intro to the game and online multiplayer in general written by site. And to top it off, here are some video guides - the first one is a must-watch for any RTS player, and the second one is for when you want to learn a few more advanced tricks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob1iYKiwiho& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRNXJHsLNA&

Papist · Post by **Papist** » 27 Jul 2018, 03:30

Hey there, welcome to ESOC!

If you're new to the game, France is typically what people recommend you start with. They are a very versatile civ, and can adapt to basically anything. Their villagers are also stronger and better than normal villagers, making them a bit more forgiving for people just learning how to manage an economy and deal with raids. You can find resources related to them on our strategy wall (viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9169) along with a bunch of other stuff that is geared towards new players.

Edit: Dang, @Cometk beat me to it.

Mordor · Post by **Mordor** » 27 Jul 2018, 03:32

This game seems to be more complex than I thought

Googol · Post by **Googol** » 27 Jul 2018, 06:54

Start with ottos, they're one of the easiest civs to play if not the easiest and once you feel you can handle other civs, start switching to France slowly.

Papist · Post by **Papist** » 27 Jul 2018, 06:57

Googol wrote:Start with ottos, they're one of the easiest civs to play if not the easiest and once you feel you can handle other civs, start switching to France slowly.

Why switch at all? Not like you can go wrong with otto

Just go double rax jan rush every game - should get you to 1st lieut in no time.

DjinnOfSorrow · Post by **DjinnOfSorrow** » 27 Jul 2018, 07:16

Don't go otto, you will spoil yourself and won't really be ready to play as any other civ down the road. France would be a great start. Learn to double rax rush with france and learn to semi ff. A rush is before 6 mins and a semi ff is before ten lol. Even currently at Ms when others my rank plan to rush and only pop 5 musk by 6 mins I just want to throttle them.

Googol · Post by **Googol** » 27 Jul 2018, 07:26

Papist wrote:
Googol wrote:Start with ottos, they're one of the easiest civs to play if not the easiest and once you feel you can handle other civs, start switching to France slowly.

Why switch at all? Not like you can go wrong with otto Just go double rax jan rush every game - should get you to 1st lieut in no time.

Ottomans are a no Brainer, to be good at this game you have to be able to adapt to your opponent and learn the build orders. Not just 2 rax Jan every game

DjinnOfSorrow · Post by **DjinnOfSorrow** » 27 Jul 2018, 07:30

Just pick a nation and run for it awhile. There are good strats for all of them. But yeah avoid otto and probably iro. Learn to have a bit of variety to your army, to raid, and to manage your eco. Don't worry about trying to click something every 2 seconds and stay off mills and plantations as long as possible.

DjinnOfSorrow · Post by **DjinnOfSorrow** » 27 Jul 2018, 07:36

Googol wrote:
Papist wrote:
Googol wrote:Start with ottos, they're one of the easiest civs to play if not the easiest and once you feel you can handle other civs, start switching to France slowly.

Why switch at all? Not like you can go wrong with otto Just go double rax jan rush every game - should get you to 1st lieut in no time.

Ottomans are a no Brainer, to be good at this game you have to be able to adapt to your opponent and learn the build orders. Not just 2 rax Jan every game

After the pure jan rush and jan/abus or jan/hussar rushes I can think of other civs that are way easier especially at lower levels.

Googol · Post by **Googol** » 27 Jul 2018, 07:38

DjinnOfSorrow wrote:
Googol wrote:
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Papist wrote:
Googol wrote:Start with ottos, they're one of the easiest civs to play if not the easiest and once you feel you can handle other civs, start switching to France slowly.

Why switch at all? Not like you can go wrong with otto Just go double rax jan rush every game - should get you to 1st lieut in no time.

Ottomans are a no Brainer, to be good at this game you have to be able to adapt to your opponent and learn the build orders. Not just 2 rax Jan every game

After the pure jan rush and jan/abus or jan/hussar rushes I can think of other civs that are way easier especially at lower levels.

It's just the fact that if the guy does these rushes, he's gonna hop into bigger levels asap and meet better players in order to learn from them if he wants to. There isn't much a difference between PR 40 Otto and pr 30 in case of doing these rushes.

Sargsyan · Post by **Sargsyan** » 27 Jul 2018, 07:40

Googol wrote:
DjinnOfSorrow wrote:
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Googol wrote:
Papist wrote:
Googol wrote:Start with ottos, they're one of the easiest civs to play if not the easiest and once you feel you can handle other civs, start switching to France slowly.

Why switch at all? Not like you can go wrong with otto Just go double rax jan rush every game - should get you to 1st lieut in no time.

Ottomans are a no Brainer, to be good at this game you have to be able to adapt to your opponent and learn the build orders. Not just 2 rax Jan every game

After the pure jan rush and jan/abus or jan/hussar rushes I can think of other civs that are way easier especially at lower levels.

It's just the fact that if the guy does these rushes, he's gonna hop into bigger levels asap and meet better players in order to learn from them if he wants to. There isn't much a difference between PR 40 Otto and pr 30 in case of doing these rushes.

Theres clearly 10 pr difference if im not mistaken

DjinnOfSorrow · Post by **DjinnOfSorrow** » 27 Jul 2018, 07:51

Until he runs into a russian player that will shut it down or should or dutch or iro lol. At that point he/she will have to learn other strats.

Sargsyan · Post by **Sargsyan** » 27 Jul 2018, 07:53

DjinnOfSorrow wrote:Until he runs into a russian player that will shut it down or should or dutch or iro lol. At that point he/she will have to learn other strats.

Yes exactly that is what gonna happen in the near future of 2018, cuz lamming otto is bad

DjinnOfSorrow · Post by **DjinnOfSorrow** » 27 Jul 2018, 08:01

Lol I get accused of laming no matter what civ I use. Same with being accused of cheating or hacking and I actually suck at this game.

Snuden · Post by **Snuden** » 27 Jul 2018, 08:02

British 11 pike, 2 TP semi FF?

Sargsyan · Post by **Sargsyan** » 27 Jul 2018, 08:05

Snuden wrote:British 11 pike, 2 TP semi FF?

Thats a cheesy strat, but french grenadier ff beats it :/

DjinnOfSorrow · Post by **DjinnOfSorrow** » 27 Jul 2018, 08:09

No cheesy is a 2v2 with otto/german rushing abus/dopp

Sargsyan · Post by **Sargsyan** » 27 Jul 2018, 08:18

DjinnOfSorrow wrote:No cheesy is a 2v2 with otto/german rushing abus/dopp

Yeah abusing abus/dopp is dope!

DjinnOfSorrow · Post by **DjinnOfSorrow** » 27 Jul 2018, 08:22

Yeah its a good way to get people crying for more nerfs. Anyways op just go france. Learn to double rax musk rush and xbox/pike rush then learn to ff. Just working on timings and learn to manage your eco. Go watch some of interjections old videos, Im guessing I can say that if not correct me. Just avoid the gimicky nations starting out amd get a grasp of the fundamentals.

Sargsyan · Post by **Sargsyan** » 27 Jul 2018, 08:25

U can ezlee win with samwise build up to a master sergeant level, so id reccomend to learn that build order too

DjinnOfSorrow · Post by **DjinnOfSorrow** » 27 Jul 2018, 08:28

Yes that should easily get you to ms. Just make sure to learn why you are doing things instead of just following the script.

HUMMAN · Post by **HUMMAN** » 27 Jul 2018, 10:43

Rush.

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