Otto TP(s) Discussion

[Kazamkikaz]

As France and German normaly if you start with 200w, you build a TP and collet 100w for house.

With 400w start for Otto, What of this following things can be more useful:

*Build 2 TPs and collet wood for home, + add new TP in transition if available to get stage coach with 400w and have 3 TPs and also 200w for rax;
*Just collet 3 crates to build a TP and a house to be able to age up faster and add a TP in transition with help of the last crate;
*collet all 4 crates and make TP, home and Mosque.

[Garja]

make 2 tps send 300w and make a TP and a house from that, then send 3v.

[DjinnOfSorrow]

I would say depends on the tp route.

[I_HaRRiiSoN_I]

400w + Garja's strat vs a non age 1 tp civ on iowa.... holy cow

[Sargsyan]

Id build 2 raxes with 400 wood then add another rax with age up wood. 3 rax strat

[Kazamkikaz]

Id build 2 raxes with 400 wood then add another rax with age up wood. 3 rax strat

Please clarify this cause i tested before 3 rax start and always just made about 12 jan at first batchs and 4-7 in others batchs

[Kazamkikaz]

make 2 tps send 300w and make a TP and a house from that, then send 3v.

So funny show me one match up or a deck where you used 300w card

But really very interesting, i should probably make a deck for High Plain, Sonora and New England maps using 300w.
What i did before is send atp first and make first TP when atp arrived, i get about 2 tps and make 1 or 2 in transition for 120w each, no 3 vills sadly.
Indeed is the fast way to make 4 TPs before hit age 2 when probably Portugal or Spain guy just send atp for nothing

[Gendarme]

S o n o r a

[Kazamkikaz]

I would say depends on the tp route.

I mean even you have only option to make 2 TPs you got extra XP by build new TP and always get extra XP in this new TP when the wagon passed
So what you mean about it depends of tp route ?

[DjinnOfSorrow]

I would say depends on the tp route.

I mean even you have only option to make 2 TPs you got extra XP by build new TP and always get extra XP in this new TP when the wagon passed
So what you mean about it depends of tp route ?

Meaning the amount of trade post on the map would determine which route I went. If there are only 2 you could get early vs 3 or 4.

[DjinnOfSorrow]

Lets say that does not matter then. 400 wood I would go 1 tp and 1 house and look for a wood treasure for the second tp with maybe a vil gathering 10 wood. I would never sacrifice being housed due to how slow ottos get vils in the first place.

[macacoalbino]

make 2 tps send 300w and make a TP and a house from that, then send 3v.

Interesting build!
What would be a more standard way of going about this though? Tp mosque and house?

[Kazamkikaz]

make 2 tps send 300w and make a TP and a house from that, then send 3v.

Interesting build!
What would be a more standard way of going about this though? Tp mosque and house?

Standard way of 400w start is probably save 100w for second TP in transition so you have option to make Stage coach with 400w when you age up also you get more xp if you build second TP later than make mosque earlier

[Kazamkikaz]

Lets say that does not matter then. 400 wood I would go 1 tp and 1 house and look for a wood treasure for the second tp with maybe a vil gathering 10 wood. I would never sacrifice being housed due to how slow ottos get vils in the first place.

Any way if you won't to a big rush you don't need age up so fast with Otto so you can put all vills to wood to make house as German and France does, when 3 vills come, you still hv 9 to 10 vills, til you get next vill (11) you will have enough wood for home but i think in a map with 1 route and 4 or more TPs Garja's way is better since you will not collet wood from trees and also have another TP in transition (4 TPs before age 2)

[Kazamkikaz]

make 2 tps send 300w and make a TP and a house from that, then send 3v.

Please write a strategy with this start and post here maybe could go to Strategy Wall

[Garja]

Just do that and stagecoach. It works better on EP where TPs are usually close together so you have less walking time and they repay at quickier rate for the first cards. Also if you can't build a 3rd TP you can still make mosque + up which is decent anyway.

[DjinnOfSorrow]

I may test it tonight if I can't find a matchup. I have never had an issue getting a sizeable mass with my approach but I will report back what I can. Any set point you want to time it til?

[bwinner]

If that's ep I would definitly make any game *collet all 4 crates and make TP, home and Mosque.

[Kazamkikaz]

If that's ep I would definitly make any game *collet all 4 crates and make TP, home and Mosque.

Do you make mosque upgrade in transition ? If not why not make second TP in transition instead of mosque ?

[bwinner]

If that's ep I would definitly make any game *collet all 4 crates and make TP, home and Mosque.

Do you make mosque upgrade in transition ? If not why not make second TP in transition instead of mosque ?

I do it, but a mosque is anyway more cost effective than a TP+you get a lot of value from having earlier

[WickedCossack]

On EP water maps age 1 dock + house! TP with age up wood.

[Kazamkikaz]

I may test it tonight if I can't find a matchup. I have never had an issue getting a sizeable mass with my approach but I will report back what I can. Any set point you want to time it til?

If you will not make stage coach or you have 2 TP routes so you spend extra 200f 200w for another stage coach so no need to do this.

[Kazamkikaz]

On EP water maps age 1 dock + house! TP with age up wood.

How about this crazy ideas:
1) 2 TPs, send 300w (Garja tip) make a dock and home and send schooners (fishng boat 40w) and make some fishing boats in transition while collet 200f for stage coach, with 400 age up wood make new TP if you want or some fishing boats and stage coach. I thing is good idea to do on New England and Carolina. You have 2 best boom at same time
2) 1 TP, send 300w make a dock and home make 2 fishing boats, next card 3 vills or schooners
3) 1 TP and 1 home, send 300w for 2 docks, next card schooners to make 40w fishing boats from 2 docks.
In this last idea there is no need use 400 age up wood to build docks and send 700w first for fishing boats, you just use 400w for fishing boats while send Rendering Plant (fishing boats gather 30% faster) as first colonial card instead of 700w.

[DjinnOfSorrow]

Tried Garja's tip. Slow on the age up but yeah once your up its good to go.

[Kazamkikaz]

Tried Garja's tip. Slow on the age up but yeah once your up its good to go.

Of cource you should wait for age up slower but when you click age up ?