Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
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Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
If you guys remember Aizamk strategy, you know what i am talking about, well my version is quite different.
Let's start:
Here you have options, you can decide age up with 10 (as aizamk does) or 12 vills, with 12 vills is quite slower but better.
With wood start make as many shrines you can (about 2) send 300w and build 1 more shrine and consulate or save the wood to build consulate when 300 exp arrives.
Again you have 2 options:
*Age up with Shogunate for 400xp;
*Age up with Torii Gates to fake a rush by building a foward barrack with rickshaw and annoying opponent a bit with your samurai. Remember torri gives you xp bonus by building things and make units.
Transition to age 2:
*Just make about 4 vills and stop to be able to age up to fortress faster;
*If you want make the "fake rush" more credible put some vills on wonder to age fast to colonial (not good idea);
*Put just 3 vills and shrines on coin to reach 400c until 600c arrives, rest on food.
AGE2:
Send 600c and age up with Toshogu Shrine for 400 exp;
Send 300exp and make isolation (ally with japan itself in the consulate), IMPORTANT: ally after 300exp arrives to make relations cost 25 exp.
Transition to AGE3:
All vills go to coin for 1000c, shrines as well. You can put about 4 vills on wonder.
AGE3:
Once in age 3 you have about 900 exp (200exp that u have accumulated since game start +300 exp from the card + 400exp from age up wonder) and 1000c that your vills gathered in transition. Again here you have alot options:
900 EXP OPTIONS:
1) Get 3 Hatamotos (better option since Hatamoto has more stats than Ronin and makes better timing with 5 mercenaries Ronins to defend);
2)Get 6 Ninjas;
3)Get ~15 yamabushis.
1000C OPTIONS:
1) Get 2 shipments of 11 soheis;
2) 5 Ronins;
3)10 Ninjas.
When your 5 ronins shipment arrived you will be close to have another 1000c and another shipment if you keep all vills on coin without idle time, so it's important make this strategy in map with 2 coin mines in your base.
ANOTHER OPTION:
Instead of collect 1000c in transition to age3, u can just make vills and some ashigarus in your foward or in-home barrack and when you are in age 3 send intervention card and get 10 yamabushis and another 15 yamabushis from the consulate so:
25 yamabushi + ~8 ashi
Note: With spanish consulate you can make shipments arrive sooner with Merchant Marine up but with Aizamk's strategy you have to wait 1000c shipment arrives and collect it all before send 5 ronins who appear in your base 50% faster, it is almost same thing as send 5 ronins as soon you reach age 3 instead of wait for 1000c shipment.
The problem is wait for next 5 ronins or ninjas shipments or collect 1000c from mines if you are been attacked
As Aizamk Ronin & Ninja FF this works better vs boom civ as Dutch maybe Portugal and FF civs as Otto and Spain.
Let's start:
Here you have options, you can decide age up with 10 (as aizamk does) or 12 vills, with 12 vills is quite slower but better.
With wood start make as many shrines you can (about 2) send 300w and build 1 more shrine and consulate or save the wood to build consulate when 300 exp arrives.
Again you have 2 options:
*Age up with Shogunate for 400xp;
*Age up with Torii Gates to fake a rush by building a foward barrack with rickshaw and annoying opponent a bit with your samurai. Remember torri gives you xp bonus by building things and make units.
Transition to age 2:
*Just make about 4 vills and stop to be able to age up to fortress faster;
*If you want make the "fake rush" more credible put some vills on wonder to age fast to colonial (not good idea);
*Put just 3 vills and shrines on coin to reach 400c until 600c arrives, rest on food.
AGE2:
Send 600c and age up with Toshogu Shrine for 400 exp;
Send 300exp and make isolation (ally with japan itself in the consulate), IMPORTANT: ally after 300exp arrives to make relations cost 25 exp.
Transition to AGE3:
All vills go to coin for 1000c, shrines as well. You can put about 4 vills on wonder.
AGE3:
Once in age 3 you have about 900 exp (200exp that u have accumulated since game start +300 exp from the card + 400exp from age up wonder) and 1000c that your vills gathered in transition. Again here you have alot options:
900 EXP OPTIONS:
1) Get 3 Hatamotos (better option since Hatamoto has more stats than Ronin and makes better timing with 5 mercenaries Ronins to defend);
2)Get 6 Ninjas;
3)Get ~15 yamabushis.
1000C OPTIONS:
1) Get 2 shipments of 11 soheis;
2) 5 Ronins;
3)10 Ninjas.
When your 5 ronins shipment arrived you will be close to have another 1000c and another shipment if you keep all vills on coin without idle time, so it's important make this strategy in map with 2 coin mines in your base.
ANOTHER OPTION:
Instead of collect 1000c in transition to age3, u can just make vills and some ashigarus in your foward or in-home barrack and when you are in age 3 send intervention card and get 10 yamabushis and another 15 yamabushis from the consulate so:
25 yamabushi + ~8 ashi
Note: With spanish consulate you can make shipments arrive sooner with Merchant Marine up but with Aizamk's strategy you have to wait 1000c shipment arrives and collect it all before send 5 ronins who appear in your base 50% faster, it is almost same thing as send 5 ronins as soon you reach age 3 instead of wait for 1000c shipment.
The problem is wait for next 5 ronins or ninjas shipments or collect 1000c from mines if you are been attacked
As Aizamk Ronin & Ninja FF this works better vs boom civ as Dutch maybe Portugal and FF civs as Otto and Spain.
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Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
If Einstein went into theory crafting^
Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
Kazamkika, z?
Pay more attention to detail.
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Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
deleted_user wrote:If Einstein went into theory crafting^
He did
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Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
Gendarme wrote:Kazamkika, z?
I still wanna see your guide to 13 Cuirassier FF, Gendarme!
The faster way i found and i think it works vs some FF is age up with 14 vills (400w=>2 houses and 1 stable) and make only TP and placer mines up and not 125 w for streel trapes and then age up with 4 hussars option with 700c as first card and then send 600c and focus on food to make 5 hussars and keep resources for 5 cuirassiers.
In age 3 send 3 cuirassier, queue 1 cuir and start collect wood for about 2 houses to support 5 cuirassiers prodution in your first batch.
Attack with 9 hussar and 8 cuirassiers in about 8 min or something like this.
Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
Where did I mention this 13 cuir FF?
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Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
Gendarme wrote:Where did I mention this 13 cuir FF?
Forget it, u said is too op to be done
Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
You can always do a 13 cuir SF.
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Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
Gendarme wrote:You can always do a 13 cuir SF.
even with slow 5 or 10 huss semi FF you still won't make 10 cuirassiers in 2 stables at once soon you reach fortress age cause it's very expensive, It's OP and everyone would be making 10 cuirassiers and send 3 and fight soon we are in age 3 than make 5 dragoons and 5 skirm and send 5 dragoons or 8 skirmishers.
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Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
any rec of this? or vod in a real fight?
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Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
t3rror1sta wrote:any rec of this? or vod in a real fight?
nope i will do it when i am pro and have good timing skills like Aizamk , don't worry just wait
Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
I'm sure if Diarouga had written this there would have been tons of people bashing him by now
Re: Kazamkikaz version of Troll Aizamk Insane Ronin & Ninja FF
I would have sexed him.
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