Comp stomps
Comp stomps
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How do i deal with frederick and isabella, who spam mercenaries and cannons??? Also frederick sometimes stays age 3 so its hella weird
How do i deal with frederick and isabella, who spam mercenaries and cannons??? Also frederick sometimes stays age 3 so its hella weird
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Re: Comp stomps
Hey im pro comp stomp player here ,make a lot of pillars and reach age 3 and u spam a lot of cannons.
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Re: Comp stomps
If you ever have problems with comps feel free to check out these guides
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Re: Comp stomps
Best ally Maurice, gets hella cannons
Gall is good rushed, same for tokugawa, Isabella is weak if u survive her attacks, but fred can get scary with imperial oil and. Henry will go mass eco till late fortress and frm then he is scary af
Gall is good rushed, same for tokugawa, Isabella is weak if u survive her attacks, but fred can get scary with imperial oil and. Henry will go mass eco till late fortress and frm then he is scary af
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Re: Comp stomps
TNT333 wrote:Best ally Maurice, gets hella cannons
Gall is good rushed, same for tokugawa, Isabella is weak if u survive her attacks, but fred can get scary with imperial oil and. Henry will go mass eco till late fortress and frm then he is scary af
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Re: Comp stomps
I think a combo of musks and falcs is generally what works best against the poor AI armies.
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Re: Comp stomps
Halb/Falc/Culv is the best anti bot composition which makes dutch the best anti bot civ imo (can obviously pass on culvs vs non artillery civs)
Also I think walls should not be used vs bots as Aklak clearly demonstrated how bots can't handle walls
Also I think walls should not be used vs bots as Aklak clearly demonstrated how bots can't handle walls
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Re: Comp stomps
aligator92 wrote:Halb/Falc/Culv is the best anti bot composition which makes dutch the best anti bot civ imo (can obviously pass on culvs vs non artillery civs)
Also I think walls should not be used vs bots as Aklak clearly demonstrated how bots can't handle walls
Musks are better than halbs.
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Re: Comp stomps
or u could full dragoon
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Re: Comp stomps
I guess it depends on the civ. I don't think that it would be great against brit because of the lb mass, but else I guess it would be smart.
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Re: Comp stomps
1.select goons
2. z move them close so lb melee them
3. profit???
2. z move them close so lb melee them
3. profit???
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Re: Comp stomps
Rather
1. select goons
2. get rekt by pikes in hand combat
3. lose all your goons.
1. select goons
2. get rekt by pikes in hand combat
3. lose all your goons.
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Re: Comp stomps
kite the pikes first then xd
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Re: Comp stomps
Hazza54321 wrote:kite the pikes first then xd
Yea, so the lb can dps anyway, that's my point.
Re: Comp stomps
goons are terrible for bot play. You want units that you don't have too watch too much cause there is lot happening. If you go goons you eventually just lose them to pikes or shit units like that. And their dps per pop is trash too.
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Re: Comp stomps
Just do Musks + Cannons will hold off all the wave and once u have enough of them push that's what I do when I play just ez or just go full heavy cannons with some priests n Ur teammate musk to protect Ur cannon.
Re: Comp stomps
I've played too many comp stomps in my day.
Best way to do it:
Play Japs, boom in base and shrine outside of map, get to Age IV. Get all ashi ups, send daiymo to corner near enemy base and make 50+ ashi and send flaming arrows to him. Keep about 30 or so ashi at home for defense behind walls.
Push with ashi/arrows and should be easy to march through enemy bases as long as you keep spamming ashi from daiymo.
Make sure to get upgrade so you can make 10 units per batch and infantry train faster from church on Dutch consulate.
Best way to do it:
Play Japs, boom in base and shrine outside of map, get to Age IV. Get all ashi ups, send daiymo to corner near enemy base and make 50+ ashi and send flaming arrows to him. Keep about 30 or so ashi at home for defense behind walls.
Push with ashi/arrows and should be easy to march through enemy bases as long as you keep spamming ashi from daiymo.
Make sure to get upgrade so you can make 10 units per batch and infantry train faster from church on Dutch consulate.
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Re: Comp stomps
Does the Brit comp ever research yeomen?
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Re: Comp stomps
edeholland wrote:Does the Brit comp ever research yeomen?
Considering that the comp's HC is the same as your, he can't have this shipment unless you're level 40+, so I don't think so.
Re: Comp stomps
Musk/Falcs/some Culv + full turtle with the single pillar botwall. You can snipe the cannons with a few culvs. If you have a good micro the can hardly unpack.
You can play the z-move Indian elephant only or Sioux riflerider/axerider in a 2v5 but idk if it works in 2v6. It could be too much spam or you have to turtle more. It's definitely fun to play because you can't do this in pvp.
130 Military / Player = minimum 780 military units vs. ~200 teamunits = ~4:1 ratio, you need a good teammate or you will have to wall the whole map like Aklak
Resources: +50% bonus
Make a deck with +40% building hp, villagershipments, 700w/700c/1000w to be fast enough. Check if there is an age5 akbar on the other team, the 5 team urumi shipment can lead to a unpleasant suprise. Choose a good map, small maps with hardly any resources (Ozarks, Sonora, Bayou) make the game insanely hard.
Try to survive with lots of pillar walls, then camp with musk/falc/culv or some skirm/lb behind the wall.
If you make it to age 5, save 40-50k resources then give up your base and spam musk/horseartillery/ some culv and finish the bots. Watch the Aklak game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0wfyzuGndY)and his BO. I don't enjoy turtle games, so i've hardly ever played 2v6 or handicap.
You can play the z-move Indian elephant only or Sioux riflerider/axerider in a 2v5 but idk if it works in 2v6. It could be too much spam or you have to turtle more. It's definitely fun to play because you can't do this in pvp.
130 Military / Player = minimum 780 military units vs. ~200 teamunits = ~4:1 ratio, you need a good teammate or you will have to wall the whole map like Aklak
Resources: +50% bonus
Make a deck with +40% building hp, villagershipments, 700w/700c/1000w to be fast enough. Check if there is an age5 akbar on the other team, the 5 team urumi shipment can lead to a unpleasant suprise. Choose a good map, small maps with hardly any resources (Ozarks, Sonora, Bayou) make the game insanely hard.
Try to survive with lots of pillar walls, then camp with musk/falc/culv or some skirm/lb behind the wall.
If you make it to age 5, save 40-50k resources then give up your base and spam musk/horseartillery/ some culv and finish the bots. Watch the Aklak game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0wfyzuGndY)and his BO. I don't enjoy turtle games, so i've hardly ever played 2v6 or handicap.
Re: Comp stomps
but you usually... have a +40-lvl'd HC
bots don't micro and make a lot of cannons, usually the only units they upgrade apart from those are cavalrymen, so melee meat-shield + micro'ed cannons of your own should do the work; also raid buildings
bots don't micro and make a lot of cannons, usually the only units they upgrade apart from those are cavalrymen, so melee meat-shield + micro'ed cannons of your own should do the work; also raid buildings
Re: Comp stomps
Hazza54321 wrote:or u could full dragoon
In my opinion the micro potential of dragoons is overkill against AI. The AI is so bad and builds units that are so terrible that you dont need to mobility of goons. The raw dps of musketeers, if microed by a non braindead human, is plenty. Add some juicy cannons and a few culvs and youre good to go.
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Re: Comp stomps
The best civ you can pick against comps will be japans + nilla civs/iro which has cannons ,with japan you shrine their hunts they will seige it and buy u time and the other makes pillar to def after seiging down those shrines ,by that time u would have decent infrastructure ,japs should go age 4 get shogun tokugawa ,age with shogun wonder and make 50 ashi and have 10 flaming arrows then its G, the nilla do alot of cannons to protect or musks.
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