Fishing wothout scooners

India Shikari
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Fishing wothout scooners

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A very noob question. Why is fishing now viable for civ without schooner card for civs like france germany against civ like brits if they dont have schooners themselves. So they sea boom and manor boom at the same time right. And if i am mot wrong a fishing boat gathers at the same rate as vills. So if brit will manor boom they'll just end up doing more expensive boom dont they. Paying 140 something for a manor while france will make 100w fishing boats. And isnt this even more beneficial on re maps where sometime hunts are scarce.
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Re: Fishing wothout scooners

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On EP fishing boats only cost 70 wood.
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On the EP, we see more and more water booms because the fishing boats only cost 70w.
On the RE going for a water boom without schooners is not worth as you need to build a dock, which costs 200w. Thus, if you want to train 5 boats, it's going to cost you 700w. It is a lot worse than a brit manor boom because it is slower (the vill comes out when you finish your manor, while you will have to queue 5 fishing boats, and it's going to take you 3 minutes to get your 5 boats), and because fishing boats are a lot worse than villagers (0.67 on food for boats vs something like 1.1 vs vills with steel traps).
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Re: Fishing wothout scooners

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I thought they gather at the same rate. That difference is big also yeah getting out boats fast is a good point. Now it doesn't even feel good on ep with all these things said.
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Also technically, the cost of a fishing boat is 110w (pop space), for about 3/5th of a vil worth in gathering

With fre, its not worth it, but might be ok with india on some maps. And ofc if youre forced to do it, it might be better than tc and mills for most civs in specific cases
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On RE it's nearly always not worth... unless your opponent makes mistakes!

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