India Deccan 1st Shipment

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On Deccan you can age pretty fast as India, often even start before your first shipment (usually the wood trickle) arrives. My question is, is it worth it on deccan sparing the first shipment in the 1st age and go for the big woodtrickle in the 2nd age, or is it better to still take the smaller wood trickle in the first age?
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Depends what u want to do if u go ff so fast maybe u want save one shipment for fortress and maybe u can something like 2agewoodtrickle/ fortress shipment /fortress shipment and after boom?
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Yea that is a good question. Because of yaks (and possible tp) I always send small trickle as your shipment curve will be very good on this map regardless ... but due to the insanely fast age you're probably in a fine spot saving it also.
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i wood trickle because like wicked said the yaks and tp grant u so much xp ur colonial shipment is barely delayed
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If you skip the TP you should skip the shipment too.
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I could assume that in deccan the correct play is sending other hero find yaks and other hero to build a tp and send trickle. Thats so much xp that trickle is worth it, esp because of the free vil shipment bonus.
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The correct play is always to send both heroes to find yaks.
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I think its better to build a tp. The most yaks extra youll get by scouting with your explorer instead of building a tp is 2 and a tp is far better than that
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How much is a TP pass on Deccan?

Let's say you miss a pass by building the TP slightly later, but get two yaks in exchange. The Yaks generate 0.2 XP per second combined, so if e.g. you're missing 60 XP from the first TP pass that would break even after 300 seconds or 5 minutes. Not sure if that's worth it, given that it means the first shipment will be ~25s later and the second shipment probably still ~10s later.

How likely is it to actually miss a pass when detouring 10-15 seconds looking for yaks at one of the side ramps? Does it depend on which end of the route you spawn on, i.e. near the start or near the end? If the chance to miss a pass is only 50/50 or less, or you'd end up building a different TP that gets the pass slightly later, I'd say it's worth it.
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gibson wrote:I think its better to build a tp. The most yaks extra youll get by scouting with your explorer instead of building a tp is 2 and a tp is far better than that


you do both. you get the yaks in the middle and you build the tp at the side. the xp on the pass is so small that you wont get your shipment any faster anyway. while the yaks will produce xp for the rest of the game which is worth way more than the first pass of 50 xp on the tp. also theres the added benefit of denying the yaks to your opponent, which is also big.
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U right
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:If you skip the TP you should skip the shipment too.

But isn't it a non sens to ship the big wood trickle then ?
Cuz if you sacrify some eco to age up faster, I think you should better use it for an early aggression. So more like 300e/5sepoy big consulate rush.
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bwinner1 wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:If you skip the TP you should skip the shipment too.

But isn't it a non sens to ship the big wood trickle then ?
Cuz if you sacrify some eco to age up faster, I think you should better use it for an early aggression. So more like 300e/5sepoy big consulate rush.

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diarouga doesnt do aggression u fool

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