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i play fr and ger and have no idea how to play vs say brit water. all i do is std. stuff vs water as well. i do have the 2 caravel and frigate in deck but dont know when to send it. i do take stage coach if i can. what becomes frustrating is people who just get close to see protect themself with ships. i guess what i am asking is how and when do i send these caravel and frigate card nd make it a timing.

As germany you can send the privateer card in colonial, 2 privateers vs 2 caravel is an easy win for the privateers, making it easier to slow down or stop his water boom.

Yeah but when would you say is the ideal time to send it?

As ger you can just chop wood in the transition, build a dock and train 1 caravel from the 400 wood while shipping 2. Works pretty well usually and you still have uhlans to raid on the land.

if you want to win* water after 7 mins you need nat post and 2 dock canoes to help.

easiest way ( and probably the best) is to 3 caravel rush and try to snowball from there, if that fails then get age 3 fast and push hard on land

as french, tower up + 200g, ( no market ), age 2 -> 2cara + dock, train one cara
700w, if he resists, build tp native, train canoes

but still vs a "decent" water player, you'll lose as fr/ger vs brit

3 caravel rush sounds nice but what if he has tower by dock and then he ships 2 caravel. I dont think 3 caravel can take on 2 caravel plus outpost plus garrisoned dock. Or am i supposed to just idle water but then he might train 1 caravel himself.

well kynisie would just send advanced dock card and it is gg for him no way to deal with it that ezly and + he can ship 2 caravels as well.
It is much ez if the map has just 1 water side and make some pikes to siege the dock might help

Aykin Haraka wrote:as french, tower up + 200g, ( no market ), age 2 -> 2cara + dock, train one cara
700w, if he resists, build tp native, train canoes

what to do with tower or200c?

you put your tower on side water coast, near ennemies docks, and with gold you make cara

caravells rush means you get as fast as possible your warships, advanced docks "isn't strong" untill you get like 5-6 fishing boats in, and you can heal your warships with your dock
so you can't destroy some fishing boats, and dock, cause you will have yours faster
plus, if the doesn't see your rush, he will not send A.D., so you will destroy his docks