How to play India vs other civs

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How to play India vs other civs

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Hey, can a good India player type in shortly how you should play India against each other civ on the ESOC Patch? Just type in ff, semi ff, rush and so on, ofc you can add more if you wanna help more, ty!

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If you see any mistakes in my grammar/vocabulary or whatever, please correct me. I really appreciate it :!: :flowers:
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I saw this in goodspeed guide but its from 2010 and i couldnt find anything else like this:

Vs Aztec: Agra build. Aztec will also boom in early colonial and the game will be decided in mid colonial. Don't push out too early, let him come.
Vs Brit: Agra build. Your only hope is to survive his pushes in mid colonial and transition into a late colonial where India really excells. Try to keep scouting his army because if it's small he may be aging and you need to push to take advantage of that.
Vs China: Agra build. Go heavy on gurkha against a colonial build. Against an FF, pressure his vills with gurkha and fight his age3 in age2.
Vs Dutch: Agra build. TOV variation may be viable. You don't really have much of a choice but to let him age and your fate is to fight an uphill battle against his fortress units. Try to keep map ctrl and make sure you scout it in time if he goes cannons.
Vs France: Agra build. Scout his build. Against dual rax go heavy on gurkha and keep hit and running his army. You have a chance here. Against musk huss also hit and run his army and hope he overextends his push. Against semi-FF, boom as hard as you can, don't even bother trying to push his town at any point, and try to get a good position to fight his cannons.
Vs Germans: Agra build. Against a semi-FF, boom hard and mass and hope he screws up. Against a colonial based strat you may have a chance if you survive his early/mid colonial pushes.
Vs India: Agra build. TOV variation is not viable because if your opponent scouts it he can do damage with a quick sowar shipment and sepoy batch.
Vs Iro: Agra build. Go heavy on gurkha in early colonial and try to survive his early game pushes until your eco starts to jump ahead.
Vs Japan: Agra build. TOV variation not viable because a smart jap will scout and adapt into a somewhat more aggressive strat.
Vs Otto: Against a TP booming otto India can just not do anything. Best hope is Agra build and outmicro, and hope he screws up in his macro or something.
Vs Ports: Agra build. Fighting age3 Port in colonial is hopeless so against a Port semi-FF I would advise to send 600g (instead of 4 sowar) and following him into fortress (TOV wonder).
Vs Russia: Agra build and against a defensive BH pressure so he doesn't age. If his army is big go back and try again later. The late colonial wars make this a fun MU, India is strong in late colonial but Russia might just be the one civ that can beat them at it.
Vs Sioux: Honestly, just resign. Best bet is Agra build with sepoy to defend against his cav raids and then fighting a very uphill battle against his OP units in fortress. Rushing is entirely not viable because Sioux can so easily turn their semi-FF into a colonial strat and completely demolish you because you sacrificed eco to rush him.
Vs Spain: Agra build. Against his (semi-)FF build your agra very defensively, get as many sepoys out as you can and wait for the 3 huss from cons before you engage his army. Call both minutemen and hope you get lucky against the cannons.
If you see any mistakes in my grammar/vocabulary or whatever, please correct me. I really appreciate it :!: :flowers:
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GS guide is outdated ,so at current meta now just make sepoys ,FF or FI all the time with sepoys+urumis(cease fire gg ,I think that is what somali does..
JK Vs rush civ it's diff you need to stay in age 2 defensive Agra & Vs semi ff civs or FF try sepoys+urumis
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How about India on RE??
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India on EP should beat germany on EP because germany is underpowered xD
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Riotcoke wrote:India on EP should beat germany on EP because germany is underpowered xD

Haha, good one.
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Check out wickedcossack's guide? I don't remember if it has matchups in it or not though
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Davy_Jones_123 wrote:How about India on RE??

On RE india beat every mu apart from Germany, Iro and Otto.
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Riotcoke wrote:
Davy_Jones_123 wrote:How about India on RE??

On RE india beat every mu apart from Germany, Iro and Otto.

What about japan?
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Shikari wrote:
Riotcoke wrote:
Davy_Jones_123 wrote:How about India on RE??

On RE india beat every mu apart from Germany, Iro and Otto.

What about japan?

Close.
There's Sioux and France too btw.
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Shikari wrote:
Riotcoke wrote:
Davy_Jones_123 wrote:How about India on RE??

On RE india beat every mu apart from Germany, Iro and Otto.

What about japan?

They destroy japan, litreally just consulate rush and you win.
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Riotcoke wrote:
Davy_Jones_123 wrote:How about India on RE??

On RE india beat every mu apart from Germany, Iro and Otto.

brits are tough too if he plays well imo and i dont know iro matchup since not many ppl playing them. but else youre correct IMO
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
Shikari wrote:
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What about japan?

Close.
There's Sioux and France too btw.

On RE they beat Sioux and France.
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Mameluke wrote:
Riotcoke wrote:
Davy_Jones_123 wrote:How about India on RE??

On RE india beat every mu apart from Germany, Iro and Otto.

brits are tough too if he plays well imo and i dont know iro matchup since not many ppl playing them. but else youre correct IMO

Brits should be easy for India as Sepoy are so good on RE. Iro beats them, basically no civ can beat Iro on RE apart from Otto.
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Riotcoke wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:
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Close.
There's Sioux and France too btw.

On RE they beat Sioux and France.

Thank you, I was wondering :flowers:
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
Riotcoke wrote:
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On RE they beat Sioux and France.

Thank you, I was wondering :flowers:

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not.
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Riotcoke wrote:
Shikari wrote:
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What about japan?

They destroy japan, litreally just consulate rush and you win.

yumi wall?
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Their was a match up of the month between India and Japan. India didn't won one game. It was ep though. But isn't japan nerfed harder on ep than India? So japan should win on re as well.
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rsy wrote:
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They destroy japan, litreally just consulate rush and you win.

yumi wall?

Consulate rush is quick enough to beat the wall. Also just use your explorers to try to stop the wall going up.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
Shikari wrote:
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What about japan?

Close.
There's Sioux and France too btw.

Thank you, I was wondering  :flowers:
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Shikari wrote:Their was a match up of the month between India and Japan. India didn't won one game. It was ep though. But isn't japan nerfed harder on ep than India? So japan should win on re as well.

On EP japan is buffed compared to india in the early game. Sepoys are worse for India, while shrines cost less.
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Pretty sure india cant do much vs wall yumi age up
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Riotcoke wrote:
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brits are tough too if he plays well imo and i dont know iro matchup since not many ppl playing them. but else youre correct IMO

Brits should be easy for India as Sepoy are so good on RE. Iro beats them, basically no civ can beat Iro on RE apart from Otto.

The argument "as Sepoy are so good on re" is not enough, then you could say that for all mu's. I played INdia a lot and either i use the wrong strategy (sepoy gurkha rush) or india vs brit is tough for india if brit plays well.
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Riotcoke wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:
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Thank you, I was wondering :flowers:

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not.

It's sarcasm. It's fine to be involved in the community and it's fine to be helping people but making false statements isn't the way to go. You can believe that India beats certain civs in your opinion, but stating that India destroys certain civs may give a false impression to the OP.
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Mr_Bramboy wrote:
Riotcoke wrote:
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I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not.

It's sarcasm. It's fine to be involved in the community and it's fine to be helping people but making false statements isn't the way to go. You can believe that India beats certain civs in your opinion, but stating that India destroys certain civs may give a false impression to the OP.

Sioux doesn't beat india on RE though. They only beat them if you get trash hunt. France i may be completely wrong. Thank you for clarifying though.
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