Germany vs Ottoman

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How to win vs ottolamers as Germany?

I see no hope. Does anyone? Recs if possible.

[Jaeger]

Probably cav semi ff in both cases.

If he goes colonial, you should be able to hold and that's probably your best bet. If he goes ff, maybe ship 3 ww and make a batch of 5 (though this might be hard if he idles you, try to raid him as much as possible so he doesn't idle you) and you to snipe the falconets , and you can target minutemen and the TC fire on falconets as well. After that you can hit and run his jannisaris with war wagons until your 8 skirms come. It might actually be better to go for standard skirm uhlan but i don't know.

[SoldieR]

Haven't played it in a while, but I think if he ff, do like semi 3sw/700w/700g for 2-3 tps. Then black riders, maybe jagers too, walls, and skirms. When he comes in, save ur free uhlan to pick off vils.

If he rush, go tp in trans, a safe one, and 8xb then 3sw. Raid him when he comes in.

If he goes Jan abus, do 3sw, 700c and get jeagers asap to smash everything with their range and hp.

Key vs Otto: save uhlan to raid and never fight til ur ready

[fei123456]

3sw 8xbow or 8xbow 3sw. call mm when 8xbow arrives and fight. make uhlans only.

[momuuu]

I'm not sure if semi FF is good if they go FF themselves. Maybe its better to go for a straight FF yourself.

[koponi]

If they go FF themselves i prefer tower rush with doppels amd xbow pike combo

[SaDe]

age 2 bows + shipment uhlans for meatshield and abus and raids


If they ff, I have had success making a proxy rax and rushing with pikes and bows+uhlans. Try destroying their houses before they can send any age 3 shipments, and idol their vills as much as possible. When Otto sends mams doppels work well as a counter if you can minimize the amount of jan and abus on the field.