Pull Trick??

[HeadKilla]

What is the pull trick?

[scarm]

When you dragbox units with different speeds and send them to a certain place, the slower units will speed up if done correctly to match the speed of the fastr ones. Can be used to escape units etc.
https://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php ... ro#p311779
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[n0el]

When you utilize the formation mechanic to make a certain group of units move faster than their normal game speed. There's a huge thread on it here: https://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php ... pull+trick

[deleted_user]

Can someone answer why it works with vills - they don't adhere to formations.

[n0el]

that's above my paygrade

[Riotcoke]

Can someone answer why it works with vills - they don't adhere to formations.

Its most likely because the villa are trying to go to the same place so the game wants them all to get there around the same time.

[HeadKilla]

Thanks all.

[EAGLEMUT]

Can someone answer why it works with vills - they don't adhere to formations.

Technically, they do. They're just permanently in "break formation", which isn't as strict and only keeps the units somewhat close together. Converted guardians are probably the only truly formation-less "nonAutoFormed" units that you can control as a player.

[Imperial Noob]

Can something be done to make villager movements less buggy? They get stuck, walk in weird directions, etc. when grouped together.

[Riotcoke]

Can something be done to make villager movements less buggy? They get stuck, walk in weird directions, etc. when grouped together.

You mean fix the pathing, wait for de for that

[EAGLEMUT]

Can something be done to make villager movements less buggy? They get stuck, walk in weird directions, etc. when grouped together.

It would be possible to make them truly formation-less, though it would be a huge design change.

[Imperial Noob]

It would be less frustrating to tank with villagers, or attack units/cannons with them in melee. I see no positives of the current situation.

[EAGLEMUT]

It would be less frustrating to tank with villagers, or attack units/cannons with them in melee. I see no positives of the current situation.

Well, first it's arguable whether formation-less pathing is overall better or worse for vills, second it's arguable whether villager pulling is a negative, and finally it would have a negative performance impact.

[Kaiserklein]

Vils move in a fine way if only you know how to control them. Except for the occasional bug/shit pathing, but that's just aoe3

[HeadKilla]

Great video from Kaiser explaining this mechanic. I can not wait for it to be useful to me some day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kirKd7VzVQ

[EAGLEMUT]

Vils move in a fine way if only you know how to control them. Except for the occasional bug/shit pathing, but that's just aoe3

I think the criticism of current vill formation is valid, particularly in large groups they move quite awkwardly in general. I guess it's not a big issue since you usually have small groups anyway.

I should link my comparison videos here: https://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php?p=349731#p349731
Actually, now that I watch the nonAutoFormed behavior again, it's just not optimal for anything really. Current state is probably the best option.

[Kaiserklein]

There's way to improve the way vils move, like by dragboxing parts of the group of vils to bring them close to the center of the group, so that it's a tighter pack. Also a common mistake is to click several times when sending a group of vils somewhere, which does seem to make them bug a bit.

[almalek]

is to pull units or vills.