Modern Iroquois Build Orders?

[Scroogie]

So now that Iro is strong again on EP, but doesnt have RE OP-stigma, i wanted to try out the civ.

What are the general gameplans you can follow and what BO/ Shipment Orders are good for the respective plans? Is the Goodspeed guide still viable in some parts?

Thanks for any insights!

[[Armag] diarouga]

GS guide is a bit outdated.
I'm too lazy to search it, but there was a similar thread a few months ago where we explained how to play EP Iro.

[Scroogie]

GS guide is a bit outdated.
I'm too lazy to search it, but there was a similar thread a few months ago where we explained how to play EP Iro.

think i found it: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17971
but it doesnt discuss build orders

[Kaiserklein]

Well since you don't start with a TP most of the time, fast age up is much less viable on EP. The lowbob all in iro rush is quite nerfed most of the time. If you get food treasures though, you can use the slow age and still be up super early with wise woman crates. If you get xp treasures you can fast age sometimes. If you get wood treasures or a wood start, you can TP and it's similar to RE iro.

Anyway, iro still plays out in a very similar way. You can still rush or hit scary colonial timings. But many times you want to FF or semi FF. One thing to remember is you basically always want to ship 800 res over 600g (600g should be sent only if you want to age up, but already used 800 res).

Basic FF build is 5v / 800 res, with a TP and market. Then fp + musket rider and ship cav, basically. Pretty simple.

Basic rush build is just ship units until you feel like you've done enough damage, then usually ship vils and add kanyas and/or age up to fortress.

Semi FF is quite complicated as iro actually, there's many ways to do it: with or without stagecoach, adding kanyas or not, shipping kanyas first card or not, going for a big timing before aging or just making a few units... Overall, I'd say semi FF builds are about shipping 5 vils, 1 or 2 unit shipments most of the time, and crates, not necessarily in this order. For example 5v / 4 kanyas / 800 res, or 4 kanyas / 5v / 800 res, or you might have to ship aennas somewhere in there, there's a lot of ways to do it and it's kind of hard to explain.

[Scroogie]

that helps me out a lot already, thank you!

[gamevideo113]

GS guide is a bit outdated.
I'm too lazy to search it, but there was a similar thread a few months ago where we explained how to play EP Iro.

think i found it: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17971
but it doesnt discuss build orders

Haven't had much time/inspiration to delve into the build orders lately... My bad

[[Armag] diarouga]

GS guide is a bit outdated.
I'm too lazy to search it, but there was a similar thread a few months ago where we explained how to play EP Iro.

think i found it: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17971
but it doesnt discuss build orders

Wasn't talking about this one.

[Mr_Bramboy]

The modern Iroquois are all dead.

[Scroogie]

GS guide is a bit outdated.
I'm too lazy to search it, but there was a similar thread a few months ago where we explained how to play EP Iro.

think i found it: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17971
but it doesnt discuss build orders

Haven't had much time/inspiration to delve into the build orders lately... My bad

dw, i enjoyed reading the water section a lot

[Scroogie]

GS guide is a bit outdated.
I'm too lazy to search it, but there was a similar thread a few months ago where we explained how to play EP Iro.

think i found it: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17971
but it doesnt discuss build orders

Wasn't talking about this one.

dang which one was it then? was it in the Strategy section?

[[Armag] diarouga]

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GS guide is a bit outdated.
I'm too lazy to search it, but there was a similar thread a few months ago where we explained how to play EP Iro.

think i found it: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17971
but it doesnt discuss build orders

Wasn't talking about this one.

dang which one was it then? was it in the Strategy section?

I don't remember, it was someone looking for Iroquois build orders.