Aztec 10 WP semi-FF

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toriancarconn wrote:@Garja, this is insightful. Thank you for posting it.
Since I'm only playing the RE version, can you point me to any earlier, RE related Aztec posts of yours?
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It's outdated though.
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Worth chopping for a tp on wood start or getting market if in base coin/wood treasure?
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Market is ok if you get coin treasures, but TP is too slow unless you get big wood and food treasures.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:Market is ok if you get coin treasures, but TP is too slow unless you get big wood and food treasures.
Is the problem getting the houses in transition and then you are behind the rest of the build?
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The problem is that you have to age with one extra vill which sucks.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:The problem is that you have to age with one extra vill which sucks.
Did you ever test if switching to train dance earlier helps with that? Or are you just not gonna have enough food in time?
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Lukas_L99 wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:The problem is that you have to age with one extra vill which sucks.
Did you ever test if switching to train dance earlier helps with that? Or are you just not gonna have enough food in time?
You don't have enough food. If you want you can make 2 extra vills and go for the training dance, but you're still going to age 30+ seconds later.
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its a nice strat, in which match up do you recomend to use it ?
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Never.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:Never.
really ? lol,

i saw many games of u where u start 10 wp
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louis293 wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Never.
really ? lol,

i saw many games of u where u start 10 wp
Ye, that's before it was nerfed to the ground.
It was tier 1 on the RE, a nice surprise strat on EP5, and now it simply shouldn't work against a good opponent.
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ok thanks, is it the warchief nerf who affected this ? do u still recommend the FI strat (very good tutorial on youtube u made) ?
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Ye, it's because of the WC nerf, and you can't FI anymore either as a result.
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why do you need vill on food for BB jag in colonial?
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i guess it's because you build your warhut quiet late from the 700 wood of the second shipment so a very fast pressure like two uhlans raid from first shipment of germany while you are building this warhut can be defended by this big button if needed
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
toriancarconn wrote:@Garja, this is insightful. Thank you for posting it.
Since I'm only playing the RE version, can you point me to any earlier, RE related Aztec posts of yours?
viewtopic.php?t=4652

It's outdated though.
you are only referring it is outdated if one playes on EP, right?

I only play on RE.
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toriancarconn wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:
toriancarconn wrote:@Garja, this is insightful. Thank you for posting it.
Since I'm only playing the RE version, can you point me to any earlier, RE related Aztec posts of yours?
viewtopic.php?t=4652

It's outdated though.
you are only referring it is outdated if one playes on EP, right?

I only play on RE.
Regardless of the patch it's outdated, there are better strategies now. The 2 skull build is worse than the fast age up build, though the difference is not huge.
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How can I find out about these better strategies? Any link you can point me to?

I appreciate your help.
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you are only referring it is outdated if one playes on EP, right?

I only play on RE.
Regardless of the patch it's outdated, there are better strategies now. The 2 skull build is worse than the fast age up build, though the difference is not huge.
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Hi

There is a good description on YouTube by Diarouga

Link:

More Videos on Esoc TV, also a good Video by Diarouga about Virgina Company boom
Enjoy! :)
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thank you. I've actually already seen that video. What about other strats? Any material about rush and FF strats?

Is it true that beyond age 2 Pumas and Maces don't have value? I often see the Mace temple card in decks, along with the inifinite mace card in age 4, which is why I wonder if maces aren't legit for age 3 and 4, too.
Rondom wrote:Hi

There is a good description on YouTube by Diarouga

Link:

Enjoy! :)
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toriancarconn wrote:thank you. I've actually already seen that video. What about other strats? Any material about rush and FF strats?

Is it true that beyond age 2 Pumas and Maces don't have value? I often see the Mace temple card in decks, along with the inifinite mace card in age 4, which is why I wonder if maces aren't legit for age 3 and 4, too.
Rondom wrote:Hi

There is a good description on YouTube by Diarouga

Link:

Enjoy! :)
Maces are good in late game too, you want to make eagle knights instead of pikes in age 3+ however.

If you want to watch other strats, you can check my games from the monociv cup :
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Got it. So even on RE maces in age 3 and 4 make sense, too. I thought, from age 3 onwards, ERKs replace Maces and JPKs replace Pumas.
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a mono civ cup? what an ingenious idea. I'll watch those Aztec matches of yours for sure, thanx.
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toriancarconn wrote:Got it. So even on RE maces in age 3 and 4 make sense, too. I thought, from age 3 onwards, ERKs replace Maces and JPKs replace Pumas.
Jaguars are bad so they don't replace anything haha. Honestly, pumas might be better than jaguars even in age 3^^.

Erk is your main unit in age 3 but erk is a goon type unit while maces are bows so you need both.
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A common mistake Aztec players make is not putting villagers onto the firepit for attack dance for crucial battles. 10 WP is 21% attack boost, add 15 villagers and it jumps to 38%. For key battles that extra 17% can make all the difference.

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