Is British infantry fine?
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Is British infantry fine?
Sometimes I feel that British units are not good enough in the long term of a match. The civ is supossed to be superior in terms of musketeers and archers, but they do not have as good upgrades as they seem. Maybe a 20% combat card for musketeers in age3 and yeomen + 10% combat card for longbowmen would do the job. Just an idea.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
I like the idea of yeomen card including +10% damage boost like japan does. British musks are fine though. Brit also have very strong cavalry
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
Longbowmen are already strong enough in early and middle game. Having the range advantage is a big deal, especially when you want to defend.
It's true they're weak in late game but it's fine in my opinion. After all, it makes sense for musk/huss/canons to be better than archers in the imperial age.
I don't understand your concern about the brit musketeers however, aren't they the best musketeers in the game after sepoys ? Full upgraded musketeers are actually even better than ashigarus.
It's true they're weak in late game but it's fine in my opinion. After all, it makes sense for musk/huss/canons to be better than archers in the imperial age.
I don't understand your concern about the brit musketeers however, aren't they the best musketeers in the game after sepoys ? Full upgraded musketeers are actually even better than ashigarus.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
You mean more efficient?[Armag] diarouga wrote:I don't understand your concern about the brit musketeers however, aren't they the best musketeers in the game after sepoys ? Full upgraded musketeers are actually even better than ashigarus.
Ashis have slightly more HP, much more attack, and much more speed
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
British have the strongest dragoon attack in the game.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
Yeah brits army is fine. If british infantry is not enough in a fight, it means you should be using cannons.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
Yea more efficient of course.Imperial Noob wrote:You mean more efficient?[Armag] diarouga wrote:I don't understand your concern about the brit musketeers however, aren't they the best musketeers in the game after sepoys ? Full upgraded musketeers are actually even better than ashigarus.
Ashis have slightly more HP, much more attack, and much more speed
1 ashi>1 musk but once you take the cost into account, the british musketeers are better.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
IIRC, there is a wonder that decrease the cost of japanese units and they become more cost-effective, so ashigaru are still better musketeers[Armag] diarouga wrote:Yea more efficient of course.Imperial Noob wrote:You mean more efficient?[Armag] diarouga wrote:I don't understand your concern about the brit musketeers however, aren't they the best musketeers in the game after sepoys ? Full upgraded musketeers are actually even better than ashigarus.
Ashis have slightly more HP, much more attack, and much more speed
1 ashi>1 musk but once you take the cost into account, the british musketeers are better.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
yeah similar to portuguese dragoon but we are only taking into consideration the Infantry units, British Cav is Fine.bittersalt123 wrote:British have the strongest dragoon attack in the game.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
Brits have:
Best hussar
Best dragoon (excluding the extra range of ports)
Best musk
Best grenadier
There is hardly anything to complain about the british army
Best hussar
Best dragoon (excluding the extra range of ports)
Best musk
Best grenadier
There is hardly anything to complain about the british army
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
The problem with British is that the investment in their eco and military early on is hard to deal with. I think their infantry is just fine and even strong in some cases.Kap_AOE3 wrote:yeah similar to portuguese dragoon but we are only taking into consideration the Infantry units, British Cav is Fine.bittersalt123 wrote:British have the strongest dragoon attack in the game.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
It's the Shogunate.Kap_AOE3 wrote:IIRC, there is a wonder that decrease the cost of japanese units and they become more cost-effective, so ashigaru are still better musketeers
Re: Is British infantry fine?
The whole design of the british is essentially centred around musk-artillery-huss, even in colonial with gren-musk-huss. Their infantry is pretty good honestly. A lack of skirms may be what you're feeling with brit infantry, as longbows are fairly squishy/glitchy. But their musks and grens are top tier.
Re: Is British infantry fine?
I don't really understand why "the civ is supposed to be superior in terms of musketeers and archers", tho brit musk is the best euro musk (as u stated, in late game) and very close to ashi or sepoy. It's true that imperial lb may not be the best ranged infantry, but considering vet lb rekt skrim easily, buffing yeomen may cause balanced issue imo.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
I'd like that british thin line upgrade church card would be buffed a bit, decreasing speed penalty a bit for example.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
i just think lbs need more upgrades industrial onwards, maybe yeoman age 4 card but it adds multiplier vs heavy inf
Re: Is British infantry fine?
Maybe have Yeomen reduce wood cost. You should be more worried about Rockets than the civilization's infantry, though
This is a good idea for the next major viability update.princeofkabul wrote:I'd like that british thin line upgrade church card would be buffed a bit, decreasing speed penalty a bit for example.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
Can i have the same for my corslet upg frum church card i have try some mousket timing with this card but 3.5 speed mousket are garbage.zoom wrote:This is a good idea for the next major viability update.princeofkabul wrote:I'd like that british thin line upgrade church card would be buffed a bit, decreasing speed penalty a bit for example.
Re: Is British infantry fine?
Though often forgotten, Portuguese musks are equal to brit musks in the late game. However, as Portuguese hussars are painfully mediocre, musk huss just isn't ever a viable option for ports- i think this may be a factor as to why brits are the kings of musketeers.
If longbows had their firing animation shortened they'd be much more effective, that much is certain. I'd like to see yeoman worked to grant range and possibly a small speed buff (4.25 perhaps?). I think touching the hp or attack would dramatically overbuff the unit, even in industrial
If longbows had their firing animation shortened they'd be much more effective, that much is certain. I'd like to see yeoman worked to grant range and possibly a small speed buff (4.25 perhaps?). I think touching the hp or attack would dramatically overbuff the unit, even in industrial
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
I like the idea of give 4.25 speed for lbs, should be a good buffdansil92 wrote:Though often forgotten, Portuguese musks are equal to brit musks in the late game. However, as Portuguese hussars are painfully mediocre, musk huss just isn't ever a viable option for ports- i think this may be a factor as to why brits are the kings of musketeers.
If longbows had their firing animation shortened they'd be much more effective, that much is certain. I'd like to see yeoman worked to grant range and possibly a small speed buff (4.25 perhaps?). I think touching the hp or attack would dramatically overbuff the unit, even in industrial
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
Longbows are fine. The only thing that could somehow make sense is adding +0.25x vs HI to yeomen, since the shipment was nerfed.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
yeomen ship now makes it so that longbowmen fire rockets instead of arrows, to increase britisih optiongamevideo113 wrote:Longbows are fine. The only thing that could somehow make sense is adding +0.25x vs HI to yeomen, since the shipment was nerfed.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
Yeomen should probably buff lbs slightly vs HI, as we brought up a few times already. Like x1.5 instead of x1.25 vs HI.
But anyway, lbs are easily one of the superior RI units, nothing to complain about. They may feel awkward in some situations, but sometimes they also just feel OP. And brit musks are the best euro ones. So yeah, British infantry is more than fine.
But anyway, lbs are easily one of the superior RI units, nothing to complain about. They may feel awkward in some situations, but sometimes they also just feel OP. And brit musks are the best euro ones. So yeah, British infantry is more than fine.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
Just wait until you get mahout'd in EP8.Kaiserklein wrote:Yeomen should probably buff lbs slightly vs HI, as we brought up a few times already. Like x1.5 instead of x1.25 vs HI.
But anyway, lbs are easily one of the superior RI units, nothing to complain about. They may feel awkward in some situations, but sometimes they also just feel OP. And brit musks are the best euro ones. So yeah, British infantry is more than fine.
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Re: Is British infantry fine?
Yeah well obviously that mahout change is stupid
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