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Any tips for this mu? I struggle a lot with spain.
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chronique wrote:Any tips for this mu? I struggle a lot with spain.
its quit hard, i mean they have age2 goons and op age3 rifle riders whom counter spains units so hard u cant make rods u cant make lancers idk how spain should win this. :unsure:
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Thanks for making this thread, I would like to hear some detail answers as well.
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Sioux kinda sets the pace of this matchup, and it gets really messy. Rifle riders hard counter every single unit spain can ship in fortress so its... messy
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Rush?
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ff is probably fine. RR kill your rods easily for sure, but they also die super quickly to skirms.
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You can also try do surprise memelution but if its too obvious and sioux masses RR only, it might not work
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I mean when we played it on beta yesterday you age up with 4 huss and push super fast around 8min-8-30 with falc, and so they get deleted by 10rr.
and the other game you ff with 8pik but go only piki+rod and you didnt produce any skirms but like 5 musq then fight in my base againt pure BR. that was not relevant of the mu, you just did wrong composition each games imo.
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I guess you can go for some spanish gold/1000w ff and train skirm/goon (I've never tried it though). Other than that, I remember mankle defeated garja pretty hard in a smackdown by going 700c/5v/700w/12pikes/2falcs against pure RR.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:I guess you can go for some spanish gold/1000w ff and train skirm/goon (I've never tried it though). Other than that, I remember mankle defeated garja pretty hard in a smackdown by going 700c/5v/700w/12pikes/2falcs against pure RR.
You can defeat Garja by stealing his 50 wood. Not a huge achievement.
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somppukunkku wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:I guess you can go for some spanish gold/1000w ff and train skirm/goon (I've never tried it though). Other than that, I remember mankle defeated garja pretty hard in a smackdown by going 700c/5v/700w/12pikes/2falcs against pure RR.
You can defeat Garja by stealing his 50 wood. Not a huge achievement.
H2O defeated garja AND got the win though.
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flontier wrote:I mean when we played it on beta yesterday you age up with 4 huss and push super fast around 8min-8-30 with falc, and so they get deleted by 10rr.
and the other game you ff with 8pik but go only piki+rod and you didnt produce any skirms but like 5 musq then fight in my base againt pure BR. that was not relevant of the mu, you just did wrong composition each games imo.
My opinion is not based on this 2 games ^^.
somppukunkku wrote:You can also try do surprise memelution but if its too obvious and sioux masses RR only, it might not work
Sioux is maybe the best civ againt revo. And tbh i don't realy want play this kind of strat ^^.
[Armag] diarouga wrote:I guess you can go for some spanish gold/1000w ff and train skirm/goon (I've never tried it though). Other than that, I remember mankle defeated garja pretty hard in a smackdown by going 700c/5v/700w/12pikes/2falcs against pure RR.
I will try the "famous" spanish gold into 1kw (and maybe, i said... maybe 1kfood) because i realy don't want any cav or rodo vs sioux. Also skirm goon are quite good with unction to deal with dog soldier.
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chronique wrote:
flontier wrote:I mean when we played it on beta yesterday you age up with 4 huss and push super fast around 8min-8-30 with falc, and so they get deleted by 10rr.
and the other game you ff with 8pik but go only piki+rod and you didnt produce any skirms but like 5 musq then fight in my base againt pure BR. that was not relevant of the mu, you just did wrong composition each games imo.
My opinion is not based on this 2 games ^^.
somppukunkku wrote:You can also try do surprise memelution but if its too obvious and sioux masses RR only, it might not work
Sioux is maybe the best civ againt revo. And tbh i don't realy want play this kind of strat ^^.
[Armag] diarouga wrote:I guess you can go for some spanish gold/1000w ff and train skirm/goon (I've never tried it though). Other than that, I remember mankle defeated garja pretty hard in a smackdown by going 700c/5v/700w/12pikes/2falcs against pure RR.
I will try the "famous" spanish gold into 1kw (and maybe, i said... maybe 1kfood) because i realy don't want any cav or rodo vs sioux. Also skirm goon are quite good with unction to deal with dog soldier.
i think siox can just send 4 axe rider first and can maybe siege down the tower and can idle ur vills for a bit what makes ur ff really not fast and siox can take tp line when u give them time,idk if rushing siox is viable with musk/huss when siox started with warhut.
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Siege your tower with 4ars ? That doesn't sound great.
Also I'm quite sure Sioux will die to a fortress timing if he takes the TP line.
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I usually beat siuox with musk Rod pike. But maybe a good siuox hold it ez donno
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I think it's a good MU for spain actually. Haven't played it as much, but skirm rod seems to be a strong comp vs sioux.
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Skirm rod goon is the combo you want
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Yeah need some goon if they go axe + rr
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play colonial. you have fast shipments, and rods counters cav easily.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:Siege your tower with 4ars ? That doesn't sound great.
Also I'm quite sure Sioux will die to a fortress timing if he takes the TP line.
sure he can siege it down if he aged fast to raid with 4 axe+hero we know that if the tower is not up he can siege it down :cry:
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Rohbrot wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Siege your tower with 4ars ? That doesn't sound great.
Also I'm quite sure Sioux will die to a fortress timing if he takes the TP line.
sure he can siege it down if he aged fast to raid with 4 axe+hero we know that if the tower is not up he can siege it down :cry:
If you go forward tower against fast age up, you suck.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
Rohbrot wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Siege your tower with 4ars ? That doesn't sound great.
Also I'm quite sure Sioux will die to a fortress timing if he takes the TP line.
sure he can siege it down if he aged fast to raid with 4 axe+hero we know that if the tower is not up he can siege it down :cry:
If you go forward tower against fast age up, you suck.
lol, i never said that i make forward tower vs siox tho,he can still siege it down when its inbase hes like 1min earlier up and tbh u dont have the res for calling mm or if u have u cant cuz it would delay ur ff
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:
Rohbrot wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Siege your tower with 4ars ? That doesn't sound great.
Also I'm quite sure Sioux will die to a fortress timing if he takes the TP line.
sure he can siege it down if he aged fast to raid with 4 axe+hero we know that if the tower is not up he can siege it down :cry:
If you go forward tower against fast age up, you suck.
you dont need to be rude though,if you say ur opionions you dont have to attack me cuz if i´m wrong/right,calm down
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Please all of my thread are suppose to be a safe place for everybody!
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Rohbrot wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:
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If you go forward tower against fast age up, you suck.
you dont need to be rude though,if you say ur opionions you dont have to attack me cuz if i´m wrong/right,calm down
Why rude? Diarouga simply say the truth if u fb against fast age u suck.not refer to you I guess
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