Why is too difficult to play as British on RE maps?

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Why is too difficult to play as British on RE maps?

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i have less than 50% win % with british in 1v1 mode, I almost always lose cause of the non-existing hunts in the maps, should I try other civ? or is just that Im still a fucking noob :v? or both maybe 21?

extra* It seems that there is no actual strategy (for this days, 2020) for british in the current meta... can someone tell me some good strats? the ones that are in this forum seems to be outdated.
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Kap_AOE3 wrote:Why is too difficult to play as British on RE maps?
Kap_AOE3 wrote:I almost always lose cause of the non-existing hunts in the maps
Looks like you got the answer.
extra* It seems that there is no actual strategy (for this days, 2020) for british in the current meta... can someone tell me some good strats? the ones that are in this forum seems to be outdated.
RE hasn't changed in over 10 years, nothing is outdated.
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Any particular matchups you are struggling with? Otherwise it's hard to give specific advice.

On re and with hunts brits win ALOT of mus in my experience...
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And what can I do as British? apart from playing on EP? or is just impossible to win some matchups in example vs russia ottos, iros, india, germans
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querty wrote:Any particular matchups you are struggling with? Otherwise it's hard to give specific advice.

On re and with hunts brits win ALOT of mus in my experience...
iroquois, germans, russians, ottomans,
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Fair enough. Just don't play against botto and irop on re. Brit/get is Brit favoured and should be winnable. I'd focus on that mu first.

If Germany does the usual cav semi, 3v/700w/600w/5v age2 play should work. Do the conventional opening and make sure to pressure them before they age up. Since you have a great eco you should be able to apply constant pressure after he hits age3. Make sure to catch each of his shipments one by one and idle alot.

This should work with different unit compositions in my experience. You can start hus and mix lb when he ages but musk/hus can work as well

That is my captain perspective, I'm sure higher level players have better advice
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querty wrote:Fair enough. Just don't play against botto and irop on re. Brit/get is Brit favoured and should be winnable. I'd focus on that mu first.

If Germany does the usual cav semi, 3v/700w/600w/5v age2 play should work. Do the conventional opening and make sure to pressure them before they age up. Since you have a great eco you should be able to apply constant pressure after he hits age3. Make sure to catch each of his shipments one by one and idle alot.

This should work with different unit compositions in my experience. You can start hus and mix lb when he ages but musk/hus can work as well

That is my captain perspective, I'm sure higher level players have better advice
well Im also captain pr26, maybe I havent learned how to play these matchups
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I dont think brit/ger is brit fav on re since ger has real uhlans and due bad herds ger has really much potential to raid on ep even its 55/45 for ger imo
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Kap_AOE3 wrote:And what can I do as British? apart from playing on EP? or is just impossible to win some matchups in example vs russia ottos, iros, india, germans
You can probably beat Germany with good play but ye Russia, Otto, Iro and India are hopeless MUs on the RE.
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I don't know if this is anything to go by, but I gained 3 pr in a month by playing France instead of British (mainly on EP where the hunts don't suck for British either.) I think Brits are a hard civ to play and I've never figured out how to make the playstyle work using longbows - when I try and use them like skirms they suck.
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chris1089 wrote:I don't know if this is anything to go by, but I gained 3 pr in a month by playing France instead of British (mainly on EP where the hunts don't suck for British either.) I think Brits are a hard civ to play and I've never figured out how to make the playstyle work using longbows - when I try and use them like skirms they suck.
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Start playing spain friends, ez 5 pr jump.
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I think on RE one of the main issues of British exacerbates really hard: management of this huge mass of vills due to lack of decent herds.
So undoubtedly the main source of problem is RE maps, no more, no less.
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Ghost_Imperator wrote:I think on RE one of the main issues of British exacerbates really hard: management of this huge mass of vills due to lack of decent herds.
So undoubtedly the main source of problem is RE maps, no more, no less.
No, they are still hard to play on EP.
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Brit lose to german on re aswell most likely
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chris1089 wrote:
Ghost_Imperator wrote:I think on RE one of the main issues of British exacerbates really hard: management of this huge mass of vills due to lack of decent herds.
So undoubtedly the main source of problem is RE maps, no more, no less.
No, they are still hard to play on EP.
Perhaps I should have written “than on EP” :chinese:
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It's not no more no less then.
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chris1089 wrote:It's not no more no less then.
He asked about RE if you haven’t noticed yet, not EP mate
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Ghost_Imperator wrote:
chris1089 wrote:It's not no more no less then.
He asked about RE if you haven’t noticed yet, not EP mate
Obviously though if Brit is hard on EP too it's not just hunts as you said. It's ok to be wrong too.
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chris1089 wrote:
Ghost_Imperator wrote:
chris1089 wrote:It's not no more no less then.
He asked about RE if you haven’t noticed yet, not EP mate
Obviously though if Brit is hard on EP too it's not just hunts as you said. It's ok to be wrong too.
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On low res maps you go for all in builds. No market, 60 manor pop. Age with 500f, ship 700c, make musk or musk + huss from two buildings. Always be fighting so you can ship unit cards after (more all-in) or 700w if you're holding/have enough res for a bit.

Alrernatively, you can age with the tower if they are going to afk under your TC, or you can be the aggressor with the tower and do a 700w 700c 6 musk delayed timing push/critical mass.

The aklak build is super hard to execute well and requires good treasures but the BO is (if I'm not mistaken) age with 500f, then 700c, 6 musk, musk atk, musk hp(?)

No MUs are hopeless MUs unless you're PR 40 so don't ever listen to Diarouga when Diarouga says something as if it's fact.

You can also do atypical strats to throw off your opponent like the blackwatch ff, or side stable/nat rush and outplay.

But ye brit is a trash tier quick search civ.
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deleted_user wrote:On low res maps you go for all in builds. No market, 60 manor pop. Age with 500f, ship 700c, make musk or musk + huss. Always be fighting so you can ship unit cards after (more all-in) or 700w if you're holding/have enough res for a bit.

Alrernatively, you can age with the tower if they are going to afk under your TC, or you can be the aggressor with the tower and do a 700w 700c 6 musk delayed timing push/critical mass.

The aklak build is super hard to execute well and requires good treasures but the BO is (if I'm not mistaken) age with 500f, then 700c, 6 musk, musk atk, musk hp(?)

No MUs are hopeless MUs unless you're PR 40 so don't ever listen to Diarouga when Diarouga says something as if it's fact.

You can also do atypical strats to throw off your opponent like the blackwatch ff, or side stable/nat rush and outplay.

But ye brit is a trash tier quick search civ.
Guess I should hold off on that 'MU opinion' thread for each civ because yeah it's true unless you're PR 40 no match up is hopeless but still I guess I wouldn't mind that sort of vision from all sorts. Such things will always be subjective I guess. Anyway good read ;).
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If you get good in water you can up that winrate by a lot on RE
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macacoalbino wrote:If you get good in water you can up that winrate by a lot on RE
good luck finding someone above pr 20 on RE who doesn't play exclusively on great plains
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