The case for Virginia Company in the "Greed" meta

[medinos]

I wonder why isn't @thebritish

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posting anything on the matter of this Brit topic...
He would say how this civ is bad because of longbowmens...
damnnn

[hunter]

You send 3 vills and end up with 36 at 6 min with 6 manors in transition that that is 33 normal vills + 3 shipment vills. When you send VC according to you, end up with 39 vills at 6 min with 7 manor in transitions. Both age up time is 4:10 and assuming no loss in vill and tc seconds what you get is 1 extra manors that is 1 extra vill instead of 3 villager. Then you should have 34 villagers instead of 39 when sending VC. Something is wrong in that math.

[Goodspeed]

You don't stop building manors after transition. Those numbers tell us that the VC build is up 6 manors at 6 min compared to the 3v build, I'm guessing 20 vs 14.

[Aizamk]

You don't stop building manors after transition. Those numbers tell us that the VC build is up 6 manors at 6 min compared to the 3v build, I'm guessing 20 vs 14.

https://www.twitch.tv/aiz11/v/57634474?t=203m49s
6:10 44 vills 5 musk (tp vc build+3+5 vills+lots of luck)

Poor defensive agra India

[deleted_user]

I only wish that the build couldn't be immediately scouted when Brits build an early TP. Though I suppose one doesn't always have to go VC off an early to start.

[MaJoOorchEf_GaZa]

its not possible that someone can build 20 manor at 5:30 it just a theory

[MaJoOorchEf_GaZa]

or make a video on it that you build 20 manor at 5:30

[deleted_user]

I present to you a product of the greed meta, an anti-Dutch build on Florida I've cooked up with success -- because on EP VC isn't greedy enough!

300w start early tp 3v, VC, 700w (max manors) 600w (2x dock) 5 vill gather to age. Should have ST and PM when you start gathering to age and enough vills on wood to keep constant 2x dock (bless ye 70w boats) production. Keep in mind Dutch eco semi is slow and they send 1k wood first. Then lbow in transition, lbow hard and make goons. In age 3 I like to 1k coin first.

If he cabs he'll probably delay stable and you can add a rax and 5-10 pikes after you're max manors and have units out as they get there. The boats actually preserve your hunts. With VC you're OK with eating trees for food. I always up the 2nd wood rate in transition.

[Goodspeed]

its not possible that someone can build 20 manor at 5:30 it just a theory

If you age at 4:10, have 0 vills on food during transition and send 700w immediately upon aging you will at least have started building the final manor before 5:30. Whether you can have it finished by 5:30 probably depends on how many wood tres you find in age1.

[DaRkNiTe1698]

I present to you a product of the greed meta, an anti-Dutch build on Florida I've cooked up with success -- because on EP VC isn't greedy enough!

300w start early tp 3v, VC, 700w (max manors) 600w (2x dock) 5 vill gather to age. Should have ST and PM when you start gathering to age and enough vills on wood to keep constant 2x dock (bless ye 70w boats) production. Keep in mind Dutch eco semi is slow and they send 1k wood first. Then lbow in transition, lbow hard and make goons. In age 3 I like to 1k coin first.

If he cabs he'll probably delay stable and you can add a rax and 5-10 pikes after you're max manors and have units out as they get there. The boats actually preserve your hunts. With VC you're OK with eating trees for food. I always up the 2nd wood rate in transition.

I guess this is what you used vs me on Hudson Bay? If yes, pretty good strategy

[tedere12]

I present to you a product of the greed meta, an anti-Dutch build on Florida I've cooked up with success -- because on EP VC isn't greedy enough!

300w start early tp 3v, VC, 700w (max manors) 600w (2x dock) 5 vill gather to age. Should have ST and PM when you start gathering to age and enough vills on wood to keep constant 2x dock (bless ye 70w boats) production. Keep in mind Dutch eco semi is slow and they send 1k wood first. Then lbow in transition, lbow hard and make goons. In age 3 I like to 1k coin first.

If he cabs he'll probably delay stable and you can add a rax and 5-10 pikes after you're max manors and have units out as they get there. The boats actually preserve your hunts. With VC you're OK with eating trees for food. I always up the 2nd wood rate in transition.

I guess this is what you used vs me on Hudson Bay? If yes, pretty good strategy

no that was 2 stable cossacks.

[[Armag] diarouga]

or make a video on it that you build 20 manor at 5:30

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByEA-y ... sp=sharing

I built 5 manors at 5:35, without any treasure and without the best macro.

[deleted_user]

I present to you a product of the greed meta, an anti-Dutch build on Florida I've cooked up with success -- because on EP VC isn't greedy enough!

300w start early tp 3v, VC, 700w (max manors) 600w (2x dock) 5 vill gather to age. Should have ST and PM when you start gathering to age and enough vills on wood to keep constant 2x dock (bless ye 70w boats) production. Keep in mind Dutch eco semi is slow and they send 1k wood first. Then lbow in transition, lbow hard and make goons. In age 3 I like to 1k coin first.

If he cabs he'll probably delay stable and you can add a rax and 5-10 pikes after you're max manors and have units out as they get there. The boats actually preserve your hunts. With VC you're OK with eating trees for food. I always up the 2nd wood rate in transition.

I guess this is what you used vs me on Hudson Bay? If yes, pretty good strategy

I added Cree on that game for good measure.

[pecelot]

cmon, boiz, he was just trolling there

[MaJoOorchEf_GaZa]

or make a video on it that you build 20 manor at 5:30

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByEA-y ... sp=sharing

I built 5 manors at 5:35, without any treasure and without the best macro.

But you used VC he said it could be done with 3 vills I was talking about 3 vills not with VC

[[Armag] diarouga]

or make a video on it that you build 20 manor at 5:30

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByEA-y ... sp=sharing

I built 5 manors at 5:35, without any treasure and without the best macro.

But you used VC he said it could be done with 3 vills I was talking about 3 vills not with VC

Ah yea, with 3vills it's not possible. It would take at least 6min -6min10 I'd say considering VC builds are usually 30-40 sec faster than 3vills builds.

[MaJoOorchEf_GaZa]

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or make a video on it that you build 20 manor at 5:30

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByEA-y ... sp=sharing

I built 5 manors at 5:35, without any treasure and without the best macro.

But you used VC he said it could be done with 3 vills I was talking about 3 vills not with VC

Ah yea, with 3vills it's not possible. It would take at least 6min -6min10 I'd say considering VC builds are usually 30-40 sec faster than 3vills builds.

Hi, Do you have some free time? I want to learn some aoe3 I'm not an ultra noob I know how to counter units and my favorite civ is British I just want to learn about timings when to age up and when need to keep play on age 2 I requested many other good players but nobody really helps me

[MaJoOorchEf_GaZa]

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or make a video on it that you build 20 manor at 5:30

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByEA-y ... sp=sharing

I built 5 manors at 5:35, without any treasure and without the best macro.

But you used VC he said it could be done with 3 vills I was talking about 3 vills not with VC

Ah yea, with 3vills it's not possible. It would take at least 6min -6min10 I'd say considering VC builds are usually 30-40 sec faster than 3vills builds.

Hi, Do you have some free time? I want to learn some aoe3 I'm not an ultra noob I know how to counter units and my favorite civ is British I just want to learn about timings when to age up and when need to keep play on age 2 I requested many other good players but nobody really helps me

I don't know what kind of abusive stuff in this message or post that nobody answer me after that message

[[Armag] diarouga]

Well honestly I don't have much time atm.
I made a VC tutorial but it's in French so I don't think it will help you.

[Jotunir]

One of the best cards for booming. It's much better than 3 villagers simply because it allows you to build manors quicker, which in turn means more villagers, experience (faster shipments) and cheaper pop space.

[Kaiserklein]

ok

[[Armag] diarouga]

gg

[Goodspeed]

One of the best cards for booming. It's much better than 3 villagers simply because it allows you to build manors quicker, which in turn means more villagers, experience (faster shipments) and cheaper pop space.

Why did I waste so much time when I could've just said this

[dutchdude117]

I love these jotunir bumps. They let me see all these interesting posts I’ve missed out on over th years.

[Kaiserklein]

In hindsight, most people still don't send VC over 3v. Sending both is quite common but that's the main use of the card. Pure VC just doesn't feel very flexible, you just have less vils than with 3v if you're not manor booming, and in many situations you don't want to boom hard