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China FF

Post by leaf4 »

Is china forced to do an FF? Can they do colonial play? It seems every player who goes china, the thing that goes into your mind is "This player is 95% guaranteed to FF" is there something else they can do?
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Re: China FF

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i once tried to play in colonial and got demolished.

Few days ago i played japan vs china.
I started shrine booming, so the china guy decided to stay in age 2. I stopped my boom and i went pure yumi.
I had the yumi attack+the japan consulate soon enough, so pure yumi>xbow pike.
After few battles in which he lost, he went chukonu/cav and started making decent trades.
After that i made stable and went for ashi/nagi.
-He resigned after that...
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Re: China FF

Post by medinos »

China is a civ you need to play in the age 3 because of her OP shipments and units..
Staying in age 2 is absurd...
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Re: China FF

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thebritish wrote:i once tried to play in colonial and got demolished.

Few days ago i played japan vs china.
I started shrine booming, so the china guy decided to stay in age 2. I stopped my boom and i went pure yumi.
I had the yumi attack+the japan consulate soon enough, so pure yumi>xbow pike.
After few battles in which he lost, he went chukonu/cav and started making decent trades.
After that i made stable and went for ashi/nagi.
-He resigned after that...

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Re: China FF

Post by britishmusketeer »

Sadly the 5 min age up combined with no cav or musks as well as not having a 400w polititian means they are indeed forced to ff every game.
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Re: China FF

Post by momuuu »

they can get a weirdly large amount of CKN + qiangs but those are still CKN + Qiangs which are not musk huss. It does kinda require a specific response by some civs but if it's scouted I dont think it can work.
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Re: China FF

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semiff is available vs some very early push (india 10/10) or some semiff (usually on no-tp maps).
also, if your opponent doesn't scout well and start tpboom directly (like french), a semiff with pikes killing tps will hurt him a lot.
the problem is, china doesn't have fast age up.
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Are there situations where cutting a village in exchange for a TP would be worth it? It seems like TP>villager, especially when it means you can send an extra military shipment to hold a colonial timing.
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Re: China FF

Post by Rikikipu »

Yeah China needs to FF always i think, the key point here is to have really good defensive skills. I don't think TP is that great with China since you already spam a lot of units, and you are sometimes a bit popped. So you need to remember that you remove 1 vill and also 20 pop space.


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thebritish wrote:i once tried to play in colonial and got demolished.

Few days ago i played japan vs china.
I started shrine booming, so the china guy decided to stay in age 2. I stopped my boom and i went pure yumi.
I had the yumi attack+the japan consulate soon enough, so pure yumi>xbow pike.
After few battles in which he lost, he went chukonu/cav and started making decent trades.
After that i made stable and went for ashi/nagi.
-He resigned after that...

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Re: China FF

Post by drumal »

Any trick how to stop FF in general with colonial play? I have so much trouble to do this If he go FF with TP and col. militia. I play as spain, brit and otto

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